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Why does my condition relapse after stopping antipsychotic medication even with Ayurvedic treatment?
Mental Disorders
Consultation #55449
111 days ago
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Why does my condition relapse after stopping antipsychotic medication even with Ayurvedic treatment? - #55449

Client_78a589
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Ayurvedic medicine lene ke baad bhi relapse hoga antipshychotic medicine chhodne par bhi aisa kyu mujhe kuch samjh nhi aa raha hai mein kya karu

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Dr. Ravi Chandra Rushi
Master of Surgery in Ayurveda
111 days ago
5

Schizophrenia or psychosis commonly relapses after stopping antipsychotic medicines because the brain chemistry imbalance may still persist even if symptoms improved temporarily. Ayurveda can support sleep, anxiety, stress tolerance and cognition, but severe psychotic disorders usually still need long-term psychiatric follow-up. Do not stop psychiatric medicines suddenly without psychiatrist supervision. Take Mahakalyanaka Ghritam 5 g twice daily after food Brahmi 500 mg twice daily Saraswatarishta 15 ml with equal water after meals Ashwagandha 3 g at night if anxiety and weakness present Lifestyle Regular sleep Avoid alcohol, cannabis, smoking Daily routine and family support important


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Client_78a589
Client
111 days ago

Antipshychotic ke bahut side effects hai jiski wajah se mera weight gain ho gays hai

Dr. Nayan Wale
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
111 days ago
5

▪︎Brahmi capsules- Two capsules twice daily with plain water half an hour after meals. ▪︎ Medhya Churna - 1 teaspoon once daily with 1 spoon of cow Ghee. ▪︎Stress Support -Capsules Two capsules twice daily with plain water half an hour after meals. ▪︎ Ashwagandha Powder -1 teaspoon once daily with 1 spoon of Cow Ghee. ▪︎Maintain Routine Physical Health Checks: Antipsychotic medications can increase the risk of metabolic issues, such as diabetes and cardiovascular conditions. Annual blood sugar, lipid profile, and blood pressure monitoring are highly recommended. ▪︎Avoid Alcohol, Cannabis, and Recreational Drugs: Substance use severely interferes with antipsychotic medications, drastically reduces their efficacy, and is highly linked to triggering acute psychotic episodes, worsening paranoia, and increasing hospitalizations.Monitor and Limit Stress High emotional expression, chaotic environments, and extreme stress can exacerbate symptoms. Establishing a predictable, structured daily routine helps keep dopamine and cortisol responses stable.Prioritize Sleep Hygiene Chronic sleep deprivation or disrupted sleep patterns heavily worsen hallucinations and delusions. Addressing sleep disorders or insomnia promptly with a clinician is vital.


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Dr. Manjula
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
111 days ago
5

Hello, Please do not stop antipsychotic medicines immediately. The way is to gradually stop. To make it more clear, you have to keep in touch with your psychiatrist and ayurveda doctor. Both medicines should go hand in hand.As the symptoms become better, gradually your psychiatrist may taper the dosage of medicine, which is completely based on the type and severity,family history of the condition. At this time your ayurveda doctor will see how to support you better. And also start practicing yogasana and pranayama. In summary, only if your psychiatrist asks you to stop you can stop. Take care, Kind regards.


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Dr. Harsh Khandelwal
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
111 days ago
5

••To treat this effectively, never stop antipsychotics abruptly. The gold-standard approach is a highly calculated, gradual tapering cross-tapered with intense Ayurvedic Shodhana (purification) and Shamana (palliative) therapies. ••​Phase 1: The Cross-Tapering & Stabilization Phase ​Do not attempt to replace the antipsychotic with herbs overnight. Instead, introduce Ayurvedic treatments while the patient is still stable on their allopathic dose, and taper the modern medicine very slowly (e.g., reducing by 10% to 25% every few weeks under strict psychiatric supervision). ​1. Yukti Vyapashraya (Internal Herbo-mineral Formulations) ••​Medhya Ghritas (Crucial for Neuroprotection): Plain herbs cannot easily cross the blood-brain barrier to repair upregulated receptors; lipophilic substances can. ••​Kalyanaka Ghrita or Mahapanchagavya Ghrita: 10–15 ml with warm water/milk on an empty stomach (Pragbhakta) twice a day. This nourishes the Majja Dhatu and shields the Manovaha Srotas from Vata hyper-reactivity. ••​Tikshna & Medhya Shamana Oushadhas: ​Sarpagandha Ghan Vati (contains Rauvolfia serpentina): Acts as a natural sedative and dopamine modulator. Used carefully under monitoring to manage acute agitation.
••Churna Combination: A combination of Brahmi (2g), Shankhpushpi (2g), Jatamansi (1g), and Vacha (500mg) twice daily to provide a sustained, calming, and neuroprotective effect. ••Nasya: Pratimarsa or Marsha Nasya with Anu Taila or Panchedriya Vardhana Taila to clear the Manovaha Srotas via the nasal route (Nasa hi shirso dwaram).
​3. Satvavajaya Chikitsa & Daivavyapashraya (Psychological & Lifestyle Anchors) ••​Sattvic Diet: Strict avoidance of Rajasic (spicy, deep-fried, caffeine, alcohol) and Tamasic (stale, processed) foods, which further destabilize the Manas. Ensure a diet of fresh fruits, cow’s ghee, shali rice, and green gram mung dal. ••​Behavioral Guidance: Cultivating Dhairya (courage), Smriti (memory/identity restoration), and integrating very mild Pranayama (like Nadi Shodhana / alternate nostril breathing) only when the patient is stable enough to follow instructions.


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Dr. Jatin Kumar Sharma
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
111 days ago
5

Ayurvedic therapies may help with sleep, stress, anxiety, digestion, and overall wellbeing, they reliably prevent relapse of psychotic disorders when used alone in place of prescribed antipsychotic treatment…it also depends on the line of treatment you are taking I would suggest to take Manasmitra vatakam 2 -BD( 2 tablets twice daily) Deemag doshhar vatib-2 BD Ashwagandharishta -15ml -in half glass water twice daily Saraswatarishta -15 ml BD in half glass water You will definitely get results


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Dr. Maitri Bhavesh Kumar Acharya
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
111 days ago
5

Hello, Relapse after stopping antipsychotic medicine does not mean Ayurveda failed and it also does not mean you are incurable. It usually means the underlying brain chemistry and nervous system imbalance is still active. and the medicines were controlling symptoms rather than fully stabilzing the condition yet In many psychriatric condition -schizophrenia spectrum -psychosis -bipolar disorder with psychotic symptoms -severe OCD with psychotic features the relapse risk after suddenly stopping antipsychotics can be high Why relapse happens after stopping antipsychotics Antipsychotics medicine -stabilize dopamine signaling -reduce hallucinations/delusion -calm overactive brain circuits When stopped suddenly or to early symptoms can return because the brain has not fully stabilized Ayurveda helps -improve sleep -reduce stress -strengthen mind/nervous system -improve long term resilience But usually works best -alongside gradual supervised psychiatric management not abrupt stopping Most important rule Never suddenly stop antipsychotic medicines on your own stopping suddenly can trigger -relapse -insomnia -anxiety -hallucination -agitation -severe mood instability Dose reduction should ONLY be -slow -supervised by psychiatrist Ayurvedic view This is often seen as -aggravated vata affecting manovaha srotas -disturbance of satva rajas tamas balance -majja dhatu weakness -chronic stress/nervous depletion Ayurvedic treatment goals -stabilize nervous system -improve sleep -reduce relapse tendency -improve emotional resilience -reduce medicine side effects -support cognition and mental calmness Internally 1) Brahmi ghrita= 1 tsp daily after meals with warm water =supports memory, calms mind, reduces overthinking 2) Ashwagandha capsule= 1 cap at bedtime =reduces stress response, supports sleep, helps nervous exhaustion 3) Saraswatarishta= 15ml with equal water after meals twice daily =helpful for anxiety, emotional instability, mental fatiue 4) Mahakalyanaka ghrita= 1 tsp with warm milk at bedtime =classical support for chronic mental imbalance, support cognition and emotional balance Very important : sleep Poor sleep is one of the strongest relapse trigger Maintain -fixed sleep time -no late night stimulation -no excessive screen exposure at night Diet -warm cooked meals -regular meals -ghee in moderation -nuts/seeds in moderation -milk with nutmeg or turmeric at night if tolerated Avoid -alcohol -recreational drugs -excessive caffeine -sleep deprivation -prolonged fasting Lifestyle and therapy Extremely helpful -psychotherapy -counselling -grounding activities -pranayam gentle only Best -anulom vilom -bhramari Avoid very intense breathwork if prone to psychosis/anxiety Important clinical reality Some people need -long term low dose antipsychotic support Just like -diabetes may need insulin -hypertension may need Bp medicine These should be no shame in this The goal is -stable functioning and good quality of life Recovery expectation with -proper psychiatrist follow up -slow medication adjustment -ayurvedic support -sleep/ stress regulation Many people achieve -long stable periods -lower relapse frequency -better functioning -reduced medicine dependence over time Ayurveda is usually best used here as -nervous system support -replase prevention support -stress/sleep stabilizer Not as a sudden replacement for antipsychotic mediicnes The safest appproach is -integrated care with Both psychiatrist + Ayurveda working gradually and carefully together Do follow Hope this might be helpful Thank you नमस्कार, मनोरोग निवारक दवा बंद करने के बाद लक्षणों का दोबारा उभरना यह साबित नहीं करता कि आयुर्वेद विफल हो गया है, और न ही इसका मतलब यह है कि आप लाइलाज हैं। इसका आमतौर पर मतलब यह होता है कि मस्तिष्क की अंतर्निहित रासायनिक संरचना और तंत्रिका तंत्र में असंतुलन अभी भी सक्रिय है। और दवाएँ लक्षणों को नियंत्रित कर रही थीं, न कि स्थिति को पूरी तरह स्थिर कर रही थीं। कई मनोरोग स्थितियों में: - सिज़ोफ्रेनिया स्पेक्ट्रम - मनोविकृति - मनोविकृति संबंधी लक्षणों के साथ द्विध्रुवी विकार - मनोविकृति संबंधी लक्षणों के साथ गंभीर ओसीडी अचानक एंटीसाइकोटिक्स बंद करने के बाद पुनरावृत्ति का जोखिम अधिक हो सकता है। एंटीसाइकोटिक्स बंद करने के बाद पुनरावृत्ति क्यों होती है? एंटीसाइकोटिक्स दवाएँ: - डोपामाइन सिग्नलिंग को स्थिर करती हैं - मतिभ्रम/भ्रम को कम करती हैं - अतिसक्रिय मस्तिष्क परिपथों को शांत करती हैं अचानक या समय से पहले बंद करने पर: लक्षण वापस आ सकते हैं क्योंकि मस्तिष्क पूरी तरह स्थिर नहीं हुआ होता है। आयुर्वेद मदद करता है: - नींद में सुधार - तनाव कम करने में - मन/तंत्रिका तंत्र को मजबूत करने में - दीर्घकालिक लचीलापन बढ़ाने में लेकिन आमतौर पर सबसे अच्छा काम करता है: - क्रमिक रूप से पर्यवेक्षित मनोरोग प्रबंधन के साथ अचानक बंद करने से नहीं। सबसे महत्वपूर्ण नियम: कभी भी अचानक अपने आप एंटीसाइकोटिक दवाएँ बंद न करें। अचानक बंद करने से नुकसान हो सकता है। कारण -पुनरावृत्ति -अनिद्रा -चिंता -मतिभ्रम -बेचैनी -गंभीर मनोदशा में अस्थिरता खुराक में कमी केवल -धीरे-धीरे -मनोचिकित्सक की देखरेख में ही की जानी चाहिए आयुर्वेदिक दृष्टिकोण इसे अक्सर इस रूप में देखा जाता है: -वात दोष का बढ़ना जिससे मनोवाह स्रोत प्रभावित होते हैं -सत्व, रजस और तमस के संतुलन में गड़बड़ी -मज्जा धातु की कमजोरी -दीर्घकालिक तनाव/तंत्रिका तंत्र की कमजोरी आयुर्वेदिक उपचार के लक्ष्य: -तंत्रिका तंत्र को स्थिर करना -नींद में सुधार -पुनरावृत्ति की प्रवृत्ति को कम करना -भावनात्मक लचीलेपन में सुधार -दवा के दुष्प्रभावों को कम करना -संज्ञानात्मक क्षमता और मानसिक शांति को बढ़ावा देना आंतरिक रूप से 1) ब्राह्मी घी = 1 छोटा चम्मच प्रतिदिन भोजन के बाद गुनगुने पानी के साथ =स्मृति को बढ़ाता है, मन को शांत करता है, अतिचिंता को कम करता है 2) अश्वगंधा कैप्सूल = 1 कैप्सूल सोने से पहले =तनाव प्रतिक्रिया को कम करता है, सहायता करता है नींद में सुधार, तंत्रिका संबंधी थकावट में सहायक 3) सरस्वतीरिष्ट = 15 मिलीलीटर पानी के बराबर मात्रा में भोजन के बाद दिन में दो बार लें = चिंता, भावनात्मक अस्थिरता और मानसिक थकान में सहायक 4) महाकल्याणक घृत = 1 छोटा चम्मच गर्म दूध के साथ सोने से पहले लें = दीर्घकालिक मानसिक असंतुलन के लिए पारंपरिक उपचार, संज्ञानात्मक और भावनात्मक संतुलन में सहायक अत्यंत महत्वपूर्ण: नींद खराब नींद, बीमारी के दोबारा होने का एक प्रमुख कारण है नियमित रहें: - नियमित सोने का समय - देर रात तक उत्तेजना से बचें - रात में स्क्रीन का अत्यधिक उपयोग न करें रात आहार - गर्म पका हुआ भोजन - नियमित भोजन - घी का सीमित सेवन - मेवे/बीज का सीमित सेवन - यदि सहन हो तो रात में जायफल या हल्दी युक्त दूध इनसे बचें: - शराब - नशीली दवाओं का सेवन - अत्यधिक कैफीन - नींद की कमी - लंबे समय तक उपवास जीवनशैली और चिकित्सा अत्यंत सहायक: - मनोचिकित्सा - परामर्श - ग्राउंडिंग गतिविधियाँ - प्राणायाम (केवल हल्का) सर्वोत्तम: - अनुलोम विलोम - भ्रामरी यदि मनोविकृति/चिंता की प्रवृत्ति हो तो अत्यधिक तीव्र श्वास व्यायाम से बचें महत्वपूर्ण नैदानिक वास्तविकता: कुछ लोगों को आवश्यकता होती है: - दीर्घकालिक कम खुराक वाली एंटीसाइकोटिक दवा की ठीक वैसे ही जैसे: - मधुमेह रोगियों को इंसुलिन की आवश्यकता हो सकती है - उच्च रक्तचाप रोगियों को रक्तचाप की दवा की आवश्यकता हो सकती है इसमें शर्म की कोई बात नहीं है लक्ष्य है: - स्थिर कार्यप्रणाली और बेहतर जीवन गुणवत्ता ठीक होने की उम्मीद: - उचित मनोचिकित्सक के साथ अनुवर्ती कार्रवाई - धीरे-धीरे दवा समायोजन -आयुर्वेदिक सहायता -नींद/तनाव का नियमन कई लोगों को इससे लाभ होता है: -लंबे समय तक स्थिरता -कम पुनरावृत्ति -बेहतर कार्यक्षमता -समय के साथ दवाओं पर निर्भरता में कमी आयुर्वेद का सर्वोत्तम उपयोग आमतौर पर इस प्रकार किया जाता है: -तंत्रिका तंत्र को सहायता -पुनरावृत्ति की रोकथाम में सहायता -तनाव/नींद को स्थिर करने में सहायता मनोरोगरोधी दवाओं के अचानक विकल्प के रूप में नहीं। सबसे सुरक्षित तरीका है: -मनोचिकित्सक और आयुर्वेद दोनों के साथ एकीकृत देखभाल, जो धीरे-धीरे और सावधानीपूर्वक मिलकर काम करते हैं। कृपया इसका पालन करें। आशा है यह सहायक होगा। धन्यवाद।


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Dr. Snehal Tasgaonkar
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
104 days ago
5

It is normal for relapse if medicines are randomly discontinued without tappering. ??? Anulomvilom and Bhramari Pranayam will help. But you have to do it early in the morning only. ? Donot get yourself into any addictions. ? Donot drink tea or coffee or aerated drinks. ? Reduce screen time… No screen in darkness and 1 hour before you sleep. Consume audio form of data rather than visuals before you sleep. ?? 100 steps after both meals are must. ?? Eat only home cooked food… Avoid outside food, packed and processed food. ?? Prefer natural liquids like fruit juice, coconut water, lemon juice, kokum sharbat over packed ones. ?? Medication: ?? Panchendriya Vardhan Tailam 2 drops in each nostril early in the morning empty stomach. Cap. Memorin(S.G.Phytopharma) 2 caps twice a day before food. Syp. Prasham 4 tsp at bed time with lukewarm water. Tab. Manasmitra Vatak 2 tabs at bed time


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This answer was super helpful and put my mind at ease. Appreciated the detailed and practical advice on what to actually try. Feeling more informed! Thumbs up!
This answer was super helpful and put my mind at ease. Appreciated the detailed and practical advice on what to actually try. Feeling more informed! Thumbs up!