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How to treat autoimmune disease with chronic typhoid and joint pain?
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Question #55855
20 days ago
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How to treat autoimmune disease with chronic typhoid and joint pain? - #55855

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RA and autoimmune disiese ten years se Hai.Esr-125 and HS-CRP-21 rahta hai.Wrist lock, right shoulder half lock pain, liver and spleen swelling, chronic typhoid bhi hai.Ese medicineLene usefull hogaKya.Doses kya hoga

How long have you been experiencing joint pain and swelling?:

- More than 6 months

How would you describe the intensity of your joint pain?:

- Severe — significant discomfort

Have you noticed any specific activities that worsen your pain?:

- No specific triggers

How is your digestive health, especially with chronic typhoid?:

- Chronic issues (constipation, diarrhea)

What treatments or medications have you tried for your autoimmune condition?:

- Prescribed medication or therapy

How would you rate your overall energy levels?:

- Very low — extreme fatigue

Have you experienced any other symptoms like fever or fatigue?:

- Yes, chronic fatigue
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●Autoimmune disease that attacks joints and other body parts.Start with mentioned medication. Do yogasana. ▪︎Joint aid plus- 2 tab 2 times a day after food ▪︎Yograj Guggul - 2 tab 2 times a day after food ▪︎Ashwagandha Churna - 2 teaspoon 3 times a day with warm water or milk. ▪︎Myaxyl Pain Relief oil - Do gentle massage 2 times. ●Diet has got major role when you take herbal remedies and it is very much important to follow the diet schedule to achieve maximum positive effects of herbs. In rheumatoid arthritis is advised to opt for anti-inflammatory diet. Have some specific fish like salmon, tuna and cold water fish as they have inflammation fighting omega 3 fatty acids and help to reduce inflammatory proteins of body. At least take once or twice in a week. Go for antioxidant rich foods like berries (blueberries, strawberries, cranberries, and raspberries), apples, broccoli, kale, spinach, garlic, onions.Use olive oil for cooking.Totally say to junk, fried and all kind of packed foods.Do not take curd especially at night. Avoid taking much potatoes, peas, chick peas, soybeans etc. Use hot and cold compresses alternately. This helps to fight pain, swelling, numbness and improves blood circulation of affected joint. Massage with mustard oil, coconut oil or olive oil to ease the pain. Try to lose weight if you are obese. Wear flat shoes only which are comfortable. Avoid get exposing in cold environment.


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Aapke symptoms — RA (Rheumatoid Arthritis), high ESR/HS-CRP, severe joint pain, stiffness, wrist/shoulder locking, fatigue, liver-spleen swelling aur chronic typhoid — Ayurveda ke according gambhir Ama + Vata imbalance aur chronic inflammation ko indicate karte hain. Isliye bina proper assessment ke koi bhi medicine directly start karna sahi nahi hoga. Is condition me Ayurveda ka main focus hota hai: • Ama (toxins/inflammation) ko reduce karna • Agni (digestion & metabolism) improve karna • Joint stiffness aur pain kam karna • Immunity aur strength ko support karna • Liver aur spleen ko balance karna chahiye Commonly Ayurveda me condition ke hisab se therapies aur medicines use ki jati hain jaise: • Simhanad Guggulu • Maharasnadi Kwath • Yograj Guggulu • Guduchi preparations • Dashmool support • Panchakarma (especially Basti) after assessment Lekin chronic typhoid aur liver swelling hone ki wajah se dose aur medicine bahut carefully select karni padti hai. Har patient me same dose suitable nahi hoti. General care: • Cold, curd, bakery, fried aur packaged foods avoid karein • Warm, light aur easily digestible diet lein • Excess non-veg, sugar aur refrigerated food avoid karein • Haldi, ajwain, jeera, garlic in moderation helpful ho sakte hain • Adequate rest aur gentle stretching rakhein Agar fever, rapid swelling, severe weakness ya weight loss ho raha ho to physician evaluation bhi zaruri hai. Proper long-term Ayurvedic management se pain, stiffness aur energy levels me gradual improvement dekha ja sakta hai


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According to your history this condition is Amavata with a weakened digestive fire (Agnimandya). 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇 1) Rasnasaptak kwath- 15 ml twice a day morning and evening mix with 15 ml of lukewarm water on empty stomach 2) simhanada gugglu- 2 tab twice a day 30 minute after meals with warm water 3) Arogyavardhini vati- 1 tab twice a day after meal 4) Amrutadi churna- 3 gm once a day at bed time with warm water 5) Punarnavasa- 20 ml twice a day after meal with equal water 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇 What to Eat & Do Light, warm, and easily digestible foods. Semi-solid split mung dal khichdi, vegetable soups seasoned with cumin, ginger, and fennel, and old rice Drink only warm water throughout the day. Gentle moving or subtle joint movements within pain limits to prevent absolute locking. Ensure regular, timely sleep to combat chronic fatigue. 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇 What to Avoid Heavily processed foods, curd (Dahi), fermented foods (idli, dosa), bakery products, refined flour (Maida), and heavy lentils (like Rajma, Urad Dal, Chole). Potatoes, tomatoes, brinjal, and ladyfinger (as they can increase joint stiffness). Absolute avoidance of daytime sleep which heavily increases Ama and Kapha. Avoid direct exposure to cold air or cold water baths.


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Hello, In Ayurveda, your condition (joint stiffness, high inflammatory markers like ESR/HS-CRP, and organ enlargement) is often correlated with Amavata (rheumatoid-like condition) coupled with Dhatugata Jwara (chronic systemic infection/fever). The primary focus is “Agni Deepana” (restoring digestive fire) and “Ama Pachana” (metabolizing toxins) to reduce inflammation and infection.
​Because you have hepatosplenomegaly (liver and spleen swelling) and a history of chronic typhoid, do not self-medicate. These conditions require professional supervision to ensure the herbs do not overstimulate or aggravate your liver. ​ ​Ama Pachana: Using bitter, anti-inflammatory herbs to “digest” the toxins causing the joint stiffness and systemic inflammation.
​Agni Deepana: Improving metabolic fire to combat the lingering “chronic” typhoid (often considered a low-grade Jwara in Ayurveda). ​Vata Shamana: Reducing the air/space energy that causes the joint locking and pain. Prescription : 1. ​Amruthotharam Kwath: Specifically for chronic fever and systemic inflammation. ​Dose: 15 ml with 60 ml lukewarm water, twice daily before food. 2. ​Yogaraja Guggulu: Traditionally used for joint stiffness and autoimmune inflammatory responses.
​Dose: 1 tablet, twice daily after food with warm water. 3. ​Heposem: Supports liver function and metabolic balance. ​Dose: 1 tablet, twice daily after food. 4. ​Ksheerabala 101 Avarti: For joint nourishment and stiffness (can be taken internally or used for gentle massage). ​Dose: 1 capsule, twice daily with warm milk or water. ​ ​Diet: Follow a “light” diet (Laghu Ahara). Consume warm, freshly cooked rice gruel (peya), moong dal, and steamed vegetables. Avoid curd, heavy dairy, oily, fried, and cold foods, as these increase Ama (toxins).
​Hydration: Sip lukewarm water throughout the day. Avoid cold water entirely.
​Lifestyle: Avoid heavy exertion during flare-ups. Gentle, mindful movement or Pranayama is encouraged to help lymphatic drainage and reduce stress-induced inflammation.


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jahan Rheumatoid Arthritis (RA) 10 saal se hai, ESR (125) aur HS-CRP (21) itne badhe hue hain, yeh shareer mein bohot zyada acute inflammation aur high disease activity ko dikhata hai. ​1. Line of Treatment (Chikitsa Sutra) ​Is sthiti mein treatment teen hisson mein chalega: •​Ama-Pachana & Deepana: Sabse pehle aapki bhookh aur hajam (Agni) ko sudharna hoga taaki naya Ama na bane. •​Vata-Amavata Shamana: Joints ki jadhata (locking) aur sujan ko kam karna. •​Yakrit-Pliha Sangraksanam: Liver aur spleen ki sujan ko dur kar ke purane typhoid ke asar ko shareer se saaf karna. Category Classical Formulation Potential Role in Your Condition ••For Joints & Inflammation Simhanada Guggulu ya Amritadi Guggulu Yeh Ama ko pachatay hain, sujan kam karte hain aur ESR/CRP levels ko niche laane mein madad karte hain. ••For Digestion & Liver Arogyavardhini Vati Liver-spleen ki sujan (hepatosplenomegaly) mein yeh sabse asardari mani jati hai aur purane jwar (typhoid) ke toxins ko nikaalti hai. ••Decoctions (Kwath) Maharasnadi Kadha ya Rasnapanchak Kwath Yeh Vata ka shaman karte hain aur joints ki stiffness/locking ko kholne mein madad karte hain. ••Spleen Care Rohitakarishta spleen enlargement ko kam karne me bahut effective hai… ​4. Pathya-Apathya (Diet & Lifestyle Restrictions) ​Aapka liver aur joints dono compromised hain, isliye parhez behad zaroori hai: ​Kya Khayein (Pathya): Gunguna pani piyein, khane mein saunth (dry ginger) aur lehsun ka upyog karein. Purana chawal, moong dal ki khichdi, aur parwal/lauki jaisi halki sabjiyan khayein. ​Kya Na Khayein (Apathya): dahi, udad dal, chana, thanda pani, fast food, aur fermented food (idli, dosa) bilkul band kar dein. Khane ke turant baad sone se bachein.


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Aapki history me RA aur autoimmune inflammation kaafi purana aur severe lag raha hai. ESR 125 aur HS-CRP 21 indicate karta hai ki body me chronic inflammation active hai. Wrist locking, shoulder stiffness, fatigue, liver-spleen swelling aur chronic typhoid ki wajah se immunity aur digestion dono affected hain. Ayurveda me is condition me treatment ka focus: * Ama aur inflammation kam karna * Immunity balance karna * Joint stiffness aur pain reduce karna * Liver support aur digestion improve karna hota hai Main generally aise cases me ye SN Herbals medicines advise karta hoon: • SN Herbals ligatone cap – 2 tablet din me 2 baar after food • Giloyghan Vati – 2 tablet din me 2 baar • Maharasnadi Kwath – 15 ml equal pani mila kar din me 2 baar meals ke baad • heptocare syrup – 2 tsp din me 2 baar liver support ke liye • Ashwagandha tab – 1 tab raat ko doodh ke sath weakness aur fatigue ke liye Diet me: * Curd, cold water, bakery, maida aur fried items avoid karein * Warm water use karein * Moong dal, lauki, tori, simple khichdi jyada lein * Din me halka stretching aur gentle movement rakhein, complete rest na karein Kyuki liver aur spleen enlargement bhi hai, isliye medicines regular monitoring me lena better rahega. Agar aap recent reports (RA factor, Anti CCP, LFT, CBC, ultrasound) share karein to medicines aur dose aur accurately plan ki ja sakti hai.


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Hello, As you have chronic issue, it is better to consult a ayurveda doctor who has panchakarma set up. This need physical examination as well as courses of panchakarma therapies along with appropriate diet and lifestyle modification. Take care, Kind regards.


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Hello, Your condition appears to be a combination of -Rheumatoid arthritis/autoimmune inflammation -chronic infection history (chronic typhoid) -severe inflammatory state (ESR 125, hs-CRP 21) -liver and spleen enlargement -fatigue + digestive disturbance This is a complex and serious condition, so treatment should be careful and supervised Do not take strong immune-stimulating medicines blindly because chronic infection + autoimmune disease together require balance Ayurvedic view This resembles -Ama vata (toxic inflammatory arthritis) -deep chronic inflammation -weak digestion + toxin accumulation -rakta + liver involvement Symptoms matching -joint locking -swelling -severe pain -fatigue -digestive disturbance Treatment goals -reduce ama -improve digestion first -reduce autoimmune flare -protect liver/spleen -improve mobility and energy Important first advice Before strong Ayurvedic medicines -recheck typhoid status properly -do= typhi IgM/IgG, blood culture ,LFT, CBC Internal management 1) For Ama vata/ RA inflammation -Mahayogaraj guggulu= 2 tabs twice daily after meals =helpful for stiffness, joint locking, chronic inflammation 2) For autoimmune inflammation + immunity balance -Giloyghan vati= 2 tabs twice daily after meals =supports inflammation control, immune modulation, chronic fatigue 3) For liver + spleen control -Arogyavardhini vati= 1 tab twice daily after meals =helps liver congestion, digestion, ama reduction 4) For digestion very important -Avipattikar churna= 1/2 tsp with warm water before meals External therapies 1) Warm medicated oil application= Mahanarayan taila gently massage + warm fomentation after massage with hot water bag or steam =improves stiffness, improves circulation Avoid strong massage during active inflammation Diet most important -warmfood -moong dal -light khichdi -cooked vegetables -garlic + turmeric in moderation Avoid completely -curd at night -fried food -cold food -bakery items -excess sugar Yoga/movement during severe inflammation -avoid aggressive exercise Best -gentle stretching -slow walking -pranayam= anulom vilom, bhramari Important caution because -lliver/spleen enlarged -chronic fatigue -severe inflammation also rule out -autoimmune liver disease -chronic infection -felty syndrome Your case is Not simple joint pain It needs -rheumatology follow up -infection reassessment -careful liver monitoring -gradual ayurvedic support Avoid taking many strong formulations together at once Do follow Hope this might be helpful Thank you


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