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How to relieve severe knee and thigh pain in my 80-year-old diabetic mother at night?
Orthopedic Disorders
Question #53864
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How to relieve severe knee and thigh pain in my 80-year-old diabetic mother at night? - #53864

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My mother is 80 years old, having severe pain in knees and thighs. During night she is unable to sleep and the pain increases if she climbs up the stairs. She is a diabetic patient. Initial physiotherapist helped but the painhas increased a lot

How long has your mother been experiencing this pain?:

- More than 6 months

How would you describe the intensity of her pain?:

- Moderate — affects daily activities

Does she have any other symptoms accompanying the pain?:

- Swelling in the knees or thighs

What treatments has she tried for this pain so far?:

- Over-the-counter pain relievers

How is her blood sugar control currently?:

- Well-controlled

What type of diet does she follow?:

- Balanced diet with controlled carbs

How often does she experience difficulty sleeping due to pain?:

- Every night
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At 80 with diabetes and severe night pain, this is usually Vata disorder (Sandhivata / osteoarthritis) with muscle weakness. Treatment should be pain relief + joint nourishment + safe for diabetes. Simple Ayurvedic medicines and dose 1. For pain and inflammation Yograj Guggulu Dose 1–2 tablets twice daily after food Maharasnadi Kwath Dose 30–40 ml twice daily before food 2. For bone and muscle strength Ashwagandha churna Dose 3 grams twice daily with warm milk Lakshadi Guggulu Dose 1–2 tablets twice daily 3. For local pain (very important) Mahanarayan oil massage Apply on knees and thighs, gentle massage 10–15 minutes Follow with hot fomentation For sleep and night pain Tagara or Jatamansi Dose 250 mg at night Diet advice Warm, soft food Add small amount of ghee daily Avoid cold food, curd at night Lifestyle Avoid stairs as much as possible Gentle movement only, do not overdo physiotherapy Keep joints warm


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Hello, This appears to be vata predominant sandhivata (degenerative knee osteosrthritis) with possible vata-kapha involvement due to swelling, and possible muscular involvement in thighs. night pain, pain on climbing stairs, chronicity , age 80 years, and disturbed sleep strongly suggest aggravated vata affecting joints, muscles, and surrounding tissues. In diabetes, circulation and nerve nourishment also need attention Treatment goals -reduce knee and thigh pain -reduce swelling and stiffness -improve sleep disturbed by pain -support joint lubrication and mobility -nourish muscles, nerves, and aging tissues -prevent progression and improve walking comfort Internal medications 1) Maharasnadi kashaya= 15ml + 45ml warm water twice before meals for 12 weeks -helps chronic pain, joint pain, stiffness vata disorder and mobility 2) Dhanwantaram gulika= 1 tab twice daily after meals for 12 weeks =useful for pain, vata aggravation, and pain related sleep disturbance 3) RG forte tablets= 1 tab twice daily after meals for 8 weeks =support joint comfort and helps swelling External therapies 1) Dhanwantaram taila -warm oil gentle application over knees and thighs, especially evening or before bed daily for 8 weeks minimum =helps pain, stiffness, improve circulation, and often helps night pain If swelling/ stiffness is prominent= kottamchukadi taila for local application lifestyle advice -avoid stair climbing as much as possible -avoid overexertion and prlonged standing -use warm compress over knees at night -keep jonit warm, avoid cold exposure -gentle assisted knee movement only, avoid painful exercises -use western style toilet support or raised seat if needed to reduce knee strain Diet -moong dal -cooked vegetables -warm soups -small quantity ghee -ginger in food Reduce -cold foods -deep fried foods -very dry foods -excess sour/heavy foods if swelling worsens Gentle practices -very gentle seated leg movements if tolerated -nadi sodhana can help pain related poor sleep Do follow Hope this might be helpful Thank you

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Some regime you should follow ??Do’s:?? Eat freshly cooked food. Chew an inch of fresh ginger half an before meal. Eat only fruit vegetables. Limit dairy products (stop if possible) Include ragi millet, black eyed pea, rajgira, soya, tofu as vegetarian source of protein and egg as non vegetarian source Include more of protein and reduce carbs in the diet. ???Yoga??? Virabhadrasana Trikonasana Vrukshasan Prasavkonasan Bhujangasan Balasan Shavanasan ???Pranayam??? Anulom Vilom Bhastrika Kapalbhati ?Dont’s:? Sitting directly under a fan or right in front of the A.C Oily, spicy, processed food. Packed food products. Sour and fermented items. Bakery items. Fried food products. Potatoes. ??Medication?? Tab. Ampachak Vati. 2 tabs twice a day before food. Tab. Sinhanad Guggul 2 tabs twice a day before food. Cap. Palsinuron 2 caps twice a day before food. Cap. Arnopen 2 caps twice a day before food Syp. Dashmoolarishta 3 tsp twice a day before food with warm water. Castor Oil. 3 tsp at bed time with a cup of hot water.


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1.Mahayograj guggulu 2 tab twice daily with water after meals 2.Tryodashand guggulu 2 tab twice daily with water after meals 3.Ashwagandha churna 1/2 tsp twice daily with milk after meals 4.Maharasnadi kwath 15 ml with 15 ml water twice daily after meals 5.Mahanarayan taila- massage with warm oil twice daily followed by hot fomentation Important Lifestyle Adjustments Stair Climbing: Avoid stairs entirely if possible, as this puts extreme mechanical stress on the knee joints. Diet: Ensure her meals are warm and easy to digest. Avoid cold foods, curd (yogurt), and heavy beans at night, as these can increase Vata and pain. Keep Warm: Ensure her legs are kept warm at night with leggings or a blanket, as cold temperatures trigger Vata pain.


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