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Concerns About Calcium Deficiency and Kidney Stones
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Question #52429
60 days ago
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Concerns About Calcium Deficiency and Kidney Stones - #52429

Client_edd876
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Good morning. I have a marked tendency to form calcium oxalate kidney stones. I'm 65 years old and have had frequent renal colic. For this reason, I've eliminated milk and all dairy products from my diet, and I fear I have a calcium deficiency. Can I take "Praval Pishti" without fear of it forming stones? What would be a safe dosage? Thank you.

How long have you been experiencing kidney stones or renal colic?:

- More than 5 years

Have you noticed any specific foods or drinks that trigger your kidney stone formation?:

- No specific triggers

How would you describe your overall hydration levels?:

- I drink moderate amounts
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Hi! I’m an assistant to the Ask Ayurveda doctors. I’ve carefully reviewed your question.

I will explain your symptoms through the Ayurvedic perspective so you understand what is happening in your body as a whole.

In Ayurveda, kidney stones, especially calcium oxalate stones, are often linked to an imbalance in the ‘Vata’ and ‘Pitta’ doshas. ‘Vata’ can contribute to dryness and irregularity, while ‘Pitta’ can lead to excessive heat and inflammation in the urinary tract. This imbalance may cause the formation of stones and frequent renal colic.

Your decision to eliminate dairy due to the fear of kidney stones is understandable, but it may lead to ‘Vata’ aggravation through increased dryness and deficiency of essential nutrients like calcium.

Praval Pishti, a natural calcium supplement, is known in Ayurveda for its ability to balance ‘Pitta’ and provide cooling effects, which might help in managing stone formation. However, it’s crucial to use it under the guidance of a qualified Ayurvedic practitioner to ensure the appropriate dosage and avoid any adverse effects.

Ayurveda views your symptoms as a systemic imbalance involving digestive health, hydration levels, and dietary habits. Addressing these factors holistically can help manage your condition effectively.

To give doctors a precise and effective treatment plan, your answers to the questions below are essential. Without this information, the recommendations will be more general and less accurate.

Please answer each question as clearly as possible.

1. How long have you been experiencing kidney stones or renal colic? 2. Have you noticed any specific foods or drinks that trigger your kidney stone formation? 3. How would you describe your overall hydration levels? 4. Have you experienced any digestive issues, such as bloating or irregular bowel movements? 5. How is your current level of physical activity and does it affect your symptoms? 6. Have you tried any other treatments or lifestyle changes to manage your condition? 7. Do you experience any stress or emotional factors that seem to correlate with your symptoms?


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Client_edd876
Client
60 days ago

1. How long have you been experiencing kidney stones or renal colic? I had my first renal colic when I was around 18. Over time, I’ve had about twenty, some very severe. 2. Have you noticed any specific foods or drinks that trigger your kidney stone formation? I’ve noticed that milk and cheese form stones more easily. 3. How would you describe your overall hydration levels? I try to drink as much water as possible; with the water I consume from food and drink, I get about 1.5 liters a day. 4. Have you experienced any digestive issues, such as bloating or irregular bowel movements? Shure; sometimes I suffer from bloating, a lot of aerophagia, and a bit of flatulence. Generally, I have a fairly weak bowel movement, and I feel drowsy, especially after lunch; I absolutely must rest, otherwise I get a headache. 5. How is your current level of physical activity and does it affect your symptoms? I exercise for about half an hour a day, and I walk a bit after my main meals (lunch and dinner). 6. Have you tried any other treatments or lifestyle changes to manage your condition? I take an Ayurvedic preparation from an Italian company; it helped me expel some stones that the CT scan revealed. 7. Do you experience any stress or emotional factors that seem to correlate with your symptoms? I have a certain tendency to be anxious and am easily stressed when I have to make decisions. For the past two years, I have been undergoing psychiatric treatment for depression. I am taking other Ayurvedic products: ashwagandha; avipattikar churna; amalaki; balarishta. I have suffered from fibromyalgia for about 30 years; in the past two years, my prostate has become slightly enlarged; I suffer (we could say, chronically) from problems related to excess vata and pitta: inflammation, etc. Thank you

It may seem logical to avoid calcium if you form calcium oxalate stones — but in reality, completely avoiding calcium can increase stone risk. Calcium increase stone risk. Calcium in the gut actually binds oxalate and prevents it from being absorbed Low calcium intake → more oxalate absorbed-- more stone formation This is well established in Calcium oxalate kidney stones management So your concern about calcium deficiency is very valid and your current strict avoidance of dairy may not be ideal. –Dietary calcium (from food) → generally protective Calcium supplements (especially between meals) → can increase stone risk Praval Pishti behaves more like a calcium supplement, not like food. –Medicines Chandraprabha Vati – 2 tab BD after meals Gokshuradi Guggulu – 2 tab BD after meals Varunadi Kashayam – 15 ml + water BD before meals Praval Pishti – 125 mg OD after lunch Ashwagandha Churna – 3 g HS —Advice Fluids: 3–3.5 L/day Lemon water daily Avoid spinach, nuts excess Take small मात्रा curd/buttermilk with meals (don’t avoid calcium fully) – Duration 6 weeks, then review —Praval Pishti only with food Hydration is most important

Client_edd876
Client
60 days ago

Thanks, doctor. I’ll try your suggestions :-)

Client_edd876
Client
59 days ago

Excuse me, doctor, but since I’ve been losing weight (both fat and muscle) for about 20 years, could you review the medications you’ve prescribed for me, taking this condition into account? I’m quite worried, because I’ve lost a lot of weight and I’m very thin. For example, I’m very afraid to do the virechana. Thank you very much. P.S. Can you tell me how long a personal consultation ($11) with you lasts ? Is the consultation via chat?

Praval Pishti is generally safe in small dose, even if you get kidney stones It usually does not increase stones Take 125–250 mg once daily with honey Drink plenty of water and don’t completely stop calcium in diet You can also take Gokshuradi Guggulu 1tab 1tab twice Punarnavadi Guggulu 1tab twice daily to help prevent stones Avoid oily spicy food meat alcohol smoking tamato spinach cabbage milk products


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Alone water is not enough to break stone, instead include barley and vetiver roots infused water. I would suggest you to take calcium supplements once you are clear of calculi. Kindly take medicine for 1 month and follow up for further treatment.

• Brahatyadi Kwath (200 Ml) - Kerala Ayurveda (Brahatyadi Kwath 200 Ml) — x2 • Chandraprabha Gulika (50 Nos) - Kerala Ayurveda (Chandraprabha Gulika 50 Nos) — x1 • Varanadi Kwath Tablet (100 Nos) - Kerala Ayurveda (Varanadi Kwath Tablet 100 Nos) — x1


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Praval Pishti is one of the best Ayurvedic options for someone with recurrent calcium oxalate stones and fear of calcium deficiency. It is a processed, highly bioavailable form of calcium that is less likely to form stones compared to regular dairy or calcium supplements, as it is cooling and helps balance Pitta ✓Safe dosage for you: 250 mg twice daily (morning and evening) with warm water or honey, preferably after meals. ✓You can continue this long-term (many months to years) under supervision. ✓Additional important advice for calcium oxalate stones: Supportive medicines (add these): Gokshuradi Guggulu – 1–2 tablets twice daily after food Varunadi Kashayam – 15 ml + 45 ml warm water twice daily after meals ✓Daily must-do: Increase water intake to 3–3.5 litres per day (warm/room temperature) – this is the most important factor. Add fresh lemon juice (1 full lemon) in warm water every morning. Continue avoiding excess oxalate-rich foods (spinach, beetroot, nuts, chocolate, tea). Moderate dairy avoidance is fine, but complete elimination is not necessary if you use Praval Pishti. Regards Dr Gursimran Jeet Singh MD Panchakarma


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Praval pisti is coral calcium, if taken in high dose of for longer time, can cause kidney stones. Moderate consumption of milk. And dairy products does not cause kidney stone.low fat or skimmed milk is recommended to provide calcium without excessive fat. High sodium diet, excessive animal protein,low water intake are more likely to cause stones. We can improve kidney function by taking Gokshuradi guggul 2 -0-0.after food with water. Punarnavadi kwath tablet 1-0-1 after food with water. Varunadikwath 15 ml twice daily after food with water You can take foods contain calcium in natural form Have sesame seeds 3tsp soak in water morning make smoothie and drink,or use it in vegetables, curries and roti. Bananas 1-2 per day is also beneficial. Apply sesame oil all over the body and expose to sunrays during sunrise and sunset time, This will help improve bone strength. Recommended medication are attached here you can buy it with 10% discount.Those not found can be bought from outside.


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–It may seem logical to avoid calcium if you form calcium oxalate stones — but in reality, completely avoiding calcium can increase stone risk. Calcium in the gut actually binds oxalate and prevents it from being absorbed Low calcium intake → more oxalate absorbed → more stone formation This is well established in Calcium oxalate kidney stones management So your concern about calcium deficiency is very valid — and your current strict avoidance of dairy may not be ideal. –Dietary calcium (from food) → generally protective Calcium supplements (especially between meals) → can increase stone risk Praval Pishti behaves more like a calcium supplement, not like food. –Medicines Chandraprabha Vati – 2 tab BD after meals Gokshuradi Guggulu – 2 tab BD after meals Varunadi Kashayam – 15 ml + water BD before meals Praval Pishti – 125 mg OD after lunch Ashwagandha Churna – 3 g HS —Advice Fluids: 3–3.5 L/day Lemon water daily Avoid spinach, nuts excess Take small मात्रा curd/buttermilk with meals (don’t avoid calcium fully) – Duration 6 weeks, then review

Praval Pishti only with food Hydration is most important


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avoid spicy food and milk and milk produts do castor oil put in umbelical area take praval pisti 3 gm 2 times day its safe use dont take any allopathy medicine for vitamin d ( increase stone size ) take neeri syrp 10 ml 2 times for 90 days


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Hello, Before deciding on praval pishti check serum calcium levels. Based on that, only if calcium deficiency is there we can take a call on calcium supplement which is safer. Till then add the following to your daily diet- Barley water 200ml once a day. Take care, Kind regards.


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To manage your calcium oxalate Stones in 65 years we have to focus on balance the heat pacifying and vatanulomak properties While praval pishti is generally considered safe because it is alkaline cooling source but it should be under observation 1) Punarnavasavam- 20 ml with equal water morning empty stomach 2) Praval Pishti + Candraprabha Vati 250 mg + 1 Tab after breakfast 3) Varanadi Kwath- 15 ml in 60 ml warm water before lunch 4) Candraprabha Vati- 1 Tab after dinner Minimum 2.523 l of water daily and tender coconut water is excellent include ashgard bottle guard and ginger in your diet consume moderate amount of low fat dairy use kulthi dal in your diet limit spinach beetroot nuts like Almonds and cashew Avoid high salt or sugar intake avoid seeds like tomato cucumber and brinjal never suppress the natural urge to urinate light walk everyday


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Namaste, Your concern is valid — but an important point to understand is: Avoiding calcium completely can actually increase calcium oxalate stones, not reduce them. When calcium intake is too low, more oxalate gets absorbed in the body, which can increase stone formation. ⸻ About your question: Praval Pishti can be used, but cautiously and in proper dose. It is a natural calcium source and generally gentler, but in your case (recurrent stones), it should be low dose and monitored. ⸻ You can take: Praval Pishti – 125 mg once daily after food, with water or honey Do not take high doses or multiple calcium supplements together. ⸻ Important precautions • Increase fluid intake (unless restricted) — this is the most important step • Do not completely avoid calcium — take moderate natural sources • Avoid excess oxalate-rich foods (spinach, beetroot, nuts in excess, tea in excess) • Reduce excess salt and very high protein intake ⸻ Helpful support You can consider: Gokshura-based support (mild) for urinary health Coriander seed water (soaked overnight, boiled and cooled) These help reduce irritation and support urinary flow. ⸻ Important note • Monitor periodically (ultrasound, urine tests) • If stones are active or large, do not rely only on supplements ⸻ Key takeaway • Calcium is needed, but in the right amount • Praval Pishti can be used in low dose safely, not excessively • Hydration and diet control are more important than supplements ⸻ You are thinking in the right direction — balance is the key here, not complete restriction. Consultation can help tailor this further to your needs.


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Client_edd876
Client
59 days ago

Thank you verymuch doctor; I appreciate your suggestions

1.Praval pishti 2 tab twice daily with honey or rose water 2.Punarnava churna 1/2 tsp twice daily with warm water after meals 3.Gokshuradi guggulu 2 tab twice daily with water after meals 4.Varunadi kwath 20 ml with 20 ml water twice daily after meals Lifestyle & Diet---- - Hydration: Aim for 2.5–3 L/day of water to dilute urine. - Reduce oxalate foods: Spinach, beetroot, nuts, chocolate. - Include: Lemon water (citric acid prevents stone formation), barley water, coconut water. - Avoid: Excess salt, red meat, and very high doses of calcium supplements.


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Some regime you should follow ??Do’s:?? Eat freshly cooked food. Chew an inch of fresh ginger half an before meal. Eat only fruit vegetables. Limit dairy products (stop if possible) Include ragi millet, black eyed pea, rajgira, soya, tofu as vegetarian source of protein and egg as non vegetarian source Vegetarian source of calcium from meal are ragi millet, barnyard millet, lobia, amranth leaves ?Dont’s:? Oily, spicy, processed food. Packed food products. Sour and fermented items. Bakery items. Fried food products. Potatoes. ??Medication?? Tab. MeCal 1 tab early in the morning. OR Tab. Praval panchamrit 2 tabs twice a day before food. Relating your renal stones: Include barnyard millet in your meal atleast twice a week whith ghee it will help break your stones and keep flushing your kidney and would avoid stone formation. Most important is hydration. If you are well hydrated stones will not form.


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Hello, Your concern is very valid- and important to correct early. Avoiding calcium completely is not the right approach for recurrent calcium oxalate kidney stones. In fact, low calcium intake can increase stone formation rather than reduce it what’s happening -In modern terms= excess oxalate binds with calcium in urine-> stones In Ayurveda -Imbalance of vata + kapha dosha -weak digestive fire-> improper metabolism -accumulation of toxins-> crystallisation in urianry tract Important correction -removing calcium milk, dairy is not advisable -dietary calcium actually binds oxalate in the gut-> prevents absorption -low calcium-> more oxalate absorbed-> more stones About praval pishti Praval pishti is a natural calcium compound used in Ayurveda Can you take it? -Yes, but with caution and proper indication Why it can be beneficial -provides bioavailable calcium -helps balance pitta -supports bone health (important at age 65) But risk -if digestion Is weak or metabolism is improper -> may contribute to stone formation So it should Not be taken alone or blindly Treatment goals -break existing stone tendency -prevent recurrence -improve metabolism -normalize urine chemistry -maintain proper calcium balance Internal medications A) Stone Management 1) Gokshuradi Guggulu= 2 tabs twice daily after meals for 3 months =breaks stones, reduces recurrence, improves urinary flow 2) Chandraprabha vati= 2 tabs twice daily after meals =balances urinary system, reduces inflammation, corrects metabolism 3) Varunadi kashaya= 15ml with equal water twice daily before meals =one of the best for mutrashmari, helps dissolve stones, reduces crystallisation B) Calcium support -Praval pishti = 125 mg once daily after meals with honey Lifestyle changes Hydration -aim= 2-3 L/day Best= warm water, barley water, coconut water Urine habits -never hold urine -empty bladder completely Diet -moderate milk not excessive, not zero -rice, wheat, barley -bottle gourd, ash gourd, cucmber -coriander water Reduce -spinach, beetroot (high oxalate) -tomato seeds -nuts in excess -tea/coffee excess -salt (very important) Avoid -completely stopping calcium -processed foods -red meat excess Simple home remedies -Barley water=boil 1 tbsp barley in 1 L water drink throughout day -Coriander seed water= soak overnight, boil in morning- helps reduce crystallisation -Lemon water= citrate helps prevent stones Yoga and pranayam -pawanmuktasana -bhujangasana -dhanurasana Pranayam -anulom vilom -sheetali You should monitor -Ultrasound KUB (every 6-12 months) -serum calcium -urine routine and microscopy -24 hour urine if possible Completely avoiding calcium is harmful Controlled calcium intake is protective -praval pishti can be used in low dose + proper combination -Hydration + metabolism correction is the main treatment Your condition is manageable , but requires a balanced approach- not restriction. The focus should be on correcting how your body proceses minerals, not eliminating them Do follow Hope this might be helpful Thank you


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