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Can I give my dad Arjun chal and Daal Cheeni Kadha while adjusting his Ecosprin dosage for cholesterol and diabetes?
General Medicine
Consultation #54783
64 days ago
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Can I give my dad Arjun chal and Daal Cheeni Kadha while adjusting his Ecosprin dosage for cholesterol and diabetes? - #54783

Client_8dbbb8
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Doctor my dad had an insulin shock but it was not sure so doctor prescribed ecosprin75 and atrovastin as a diabetic patient and high cholestrol patient. Now. His ldl after 1 month after regular taking and 2 week of alternate dose is 113 can we give arjun chal and daal cheeni kadha with it and make ecosprin once in three days rather then alternate days

How long has your dad been diagnosed with diabetes and high cholesterol?:

- 1-5 years

What other medications is your dad currently taking?:

- Only Ecosprin and Atorvastatin

Has your dad experienced any side effects from his current medications?:

- No side effects

How often does he monitor his blood sugar levels?:

- Daily

What is your dad's current diet like?:

- Balanced with fruits and vegetables

Has he had any recent health check-ups or tests?:

- Yes, recent tests

How is his overall energy level and activity?:

- Moderately active

Doctors' responses

Dr. Ravi Chandra Rushi
Master of Surgery in Ayurveda
63 days ago
5

Do not reduce Ecosprin 75 frequency to once in 3 days. It is prescribed for continuous antiplatelet effect, especially after suspected hypoglycemic event with cardiovascular risk. Keep daily or as physician advised. Atorvastatin should also be continued regularly; LDL 113 is still above optimal for diabetics. Ayurvedic support (safe with current drugs): Arjun chhal kwath: 20–30 ml twice daily after food Dalchini kwath: 15–20 ml once daily morning (monitor sugar) Add Guduchi satva 500 mg twice daily Amalaki churna 3 g at night with lukewarm water


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Client_8dbbb8
Client
63 days ago

Should we give ecosprin on alternate days if a hypoglycaemia but in hypoglycaemia ecosprin is not required therefore confused

Dr. Ravi Chandra Rushi
Master of Surgery in Ayurveda
63 days ago
5

yes u can take

Dr. Gursimran Jeet Singh
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
63 days ago
5

There is a significant misunderstanding regarding the insulin shock. An insulin shock is severe hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). However, doctors do not prescribe Ecosprin 75 (a blood thinner) and Atorvastatin (a cholesterol-lowering medication) for low blood sugar. These specific medications are prescribed when a doctor suspects a Transient Ischemic Attack (TIA/mini-stroke) or a cardiovascular event. Ecosprin keeps the blood platelets from clumping together to prevent a stroke or heart attack, and Atorvastatin stabilizes plaque in the arteries. ✓Do not reduce the Ecosprin to once in three days. Aspirin only stays active in the body for a short time. Taking it every three days completely destroys its protective antiplatelet effect, leaving your father completely vulnerable to a clot. Only his prescribing cardiologist or neurologist can safely alter this dosage after reviewing his ECG and lipid profile. ✓Ayurvedic Action Plan To answer your question: Yes, you can give him Arjuna Chaal and Dalchini Kadha as a supportive therapy to strengthen his heart and naturally manage his LDL and blood sugar, but it must be used as an adjunct to his current medicines, not a replacement. 1. Arjuna Chaal and Dalchini Kadha Preparation: Take 1/2 teaspoon of pure Arjuna bark powder and just a small pinch (1/4 teaspoon) of Dalchini (Cinnamon) powder. Boil them in 2 cups of water on a low flame until the water reduces to 1 cup. Strain it well. Dosage: 1 cup once a day. Time: First thing in the morning on an empty stomach. ✓Crucial Care Rules Strict 2-Hour Gap: Because Arjuna naturally improves blood circulation and acts as a mild natural blood thinner, you must maintain a strict gap of at least 2 to 3 hours between drinking the Ayurvedic Kadha and taking the Allopathic Ecosprin or Atorvastatin to prevent any liver processing overlap or over-thinning of the blood. Watch for Bleeding: While this combination is generally safe when spaced out, because he is on Ecosprin, keep an eye out for any signs of easy bruising on his skin or bleeding gums while brushing. If you notice this, stop the Kadha and consult your doctor. Stay Hydrated: The Kadha can sometimes create mild dryness. Ensure he is drinking plenty of warm water throughout the day to keep his kidneys flushing properly. Regards, Dr Gursimran Jeet Singh MD Panchakarma


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Client_8dbbb8
Client
63 days ago

Doctor we had done all the test like ct scan carotid doppler and all the reports were normal it was a hypoglycaemia event but because of diabetics and high cholestrol like ldl 113 doctor said you can take daily for 1 month then alternate days But we were wanting to discontinue it through tapering and give arjun ki chal as replacement as reports were ok and there was no problem in that

Dr. Gursimran Jeet Singh
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
63 days ago
5

Okay, then take it every 3 days and keep a regular check on lipid profile levels, every 3-4 months. If there’s sudden breathlessness or dyspnoea, immediately consult. Meanwhile continue Arjun and dalchini kadha.

Client_8dbbb8
Client
63 days ago

Doctor like my uncle is also an ayurvedic doctor he viewed reports and suggested me to taper ecosprin 75 and start arjun chal as both works same and ecosprin is not good for long term if you dont have any cardiovascular problem is his opinion right And can you suggest your opinion tooo which will help alot because i am too confused that what should i do Because we consulted neurologist and cardiologist both Both suggested 1 month regular then said that can take alternate days on own after one month and show in 3 months And my dad is taking ecosprin currently on alternate days from 15 days

Dr. Gursimran Jeet Singh
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
63 days ago
5

Just continue for once in every 3 days and then stop it and rely on arjun kadha.

Client_8dbbb8
Client
63 days ago

Doctor sath sath me arjun chal start kar skte hai na jis din ecosprin nahi de rhe hai un days

Dr. Gursimran Jeet Singh
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
63 days ago
5

yes you can start

Dr. Anjali Sehrawat
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
63 days ago
5

About Arjun Chaal & Dalchini (Cinnamon) Decoction -Arjun Chaal (Terminalia arjuna): Traditionally used as a cardiac tonic. It helps strengthen heart muscles, supports cholesterol management, and improves circulation. -Dalchini (Cinnamon): Can help regulate blood sugar and improve lipid metabolism. 👉 These can be taken as a mild decoction (boiled in water) once daily, but only as supportive therapy. They are generally safe alongside statins and aspirin, but should not replace prescribed medicines. About Ecosprin (Aspirin) & Atorvastatin -Ecosprin 75 (low-dose aspirin): Prescribed to prevent clot formation, especially in diabetics with cholesterol issues. -Atorvastatin: Lowers LDL cholesterol and protects against heart disease. 👉 Changing the frequency of Ecosprin (like once in 3 days) should not be done without doctor’s advice. Aspirin works by keeping platelets from sticking together, and irregular dosing can reduce its protective effect.


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Dr. Maitri Bhavesh Kumar Acharya
Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
62 days ago
5

Hello, Main concern Your father is taking -Ecosprin 75 (blood thinner) -Atorvastatin These are life protective medicines (prevent heart attack/stroke) About changing Ecosprin dose You asked -can we reduce Ecosprin to once in 3 days? NO- do not change dose yourself -Ecosprin works by daily platelet control -skipping dose-> increases risk of= clot formation, stroke, heart attack Alternate day itself is sometimes prescribed carefully Once in 3 days- unsafe without doctor advice About Arjun chal + Dalchini kadha 1) Arjun good for heart strength, cholesterol support 2) Cinnamon -helps blood sugar control But important Interaction Both Arjun + Dalchini =have mild blood thinning effect Combined with Ecosprin -can increase bleeding risk (in some cases) Safe way to use (if you want to add) You can give -Arjuna + dalchini in mild dose only Example -Arjuna decoction (light) once daily -dalchini small pinch in food Avoid strong kadha/high dose Do Not -stop or reduce Ecosprin -Replace medicines with kadha -take high dose herbal combinations Better focus (more effective than kadha) continue -balanced diabetic diet -daily sugar monitoring -regular lipid profile Add -walking 30 min daily Talk to your doctor before -changing Ecosprin dose -adding regular herbal kadha Do follow Hope this might be helpful Thank you


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