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How to treat edema with dark spots on ankles in an 86-year-old with autoimmune issues?
Vascular Disorders
Question #53098
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How to treat edema with dark spots on ankles in an 86-year-old with autoimmune issues? - #53098

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I have edema. It has appeard twice in the last two years. It is in and on my ankles and feet now. They’re little black or dark blue dots . It goes near my swollen ankle and bone.i am eighty six years old have other medical Problems along with autoimmune illnesses. What can I do?

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You have swelling in your ankles along with dark spots on the skin. This is most likely due to poor blood circulation in the legs, where fluid and blood collect around the ankles over time. This can cause skin discoloration that looks like bruises or black dots. –In the meantime, keeping your legs elevated and avoiding long periods of standing can help reduce the swelling. —Dx: Shotha + Rakta dushti —Rx: 1) Aimil Neo-Varuna Cap – 1 bd after meals 2) Aimil Lukol Tab – 2 BD after meals 3) Aimil Amlycure DS – 2 tsp BD before meals 4) trifla tab 1 at night with Luke warm water —Local: Mahanarayan oil massage OD —Advice: Leg elevation, low salt, avoid long standing —F/U: 2–weeks — tests will be done if worsening swelling/pain Even if no relief then consult offline for proper evaluation


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Ankle swelling + black dots = may be circulation problem, not just skin issue Possible causes: Chronic venous insufficiency Varicose veins Long-standing edema → skin darkening Punarnava Mandur 1tab 2times after food reduces swelling Kaishore Guggulu 1tab 2times after food improves blood Arogya vardini vati 1tab 2times after food Take after food (doctor advice) Local care Apply warm sesame oil massage daily Keep legs elevated (15–20 min, 2–3 times/day) Diet Reduce salt Avoid fried & heavy food Take warm, light meals


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Hello I can understand your concern regarding -having black dot patches on your ankles -with recurring swelling That too for almost a year now And this is not the thing to be ignored ▪️Probable causes in your case -Poor and insufficient blood supply to your legs -Varicose vein changes -or it can be nutritional deficiency The black dot which you have on your ankles may be due to capillary leakage due to poor circulation ▪️Important investigation to be needed -As your edema is chronic better to get tests done -RFT ( Renal function test) -LFT ( liver function test) -Serum albumin -Venous and arterial doppler study of both lower limbs With this we can come to a provisonal diagnosis ▪️Ayurvedic plan of treatment ▪️Internal Medication ➖Punarnava mandoor 1 tablet twice daily after food ➖Mahamanjistahdi kwatha 15 ml twice daily after food with equal water ➖Veinflux NC 1 tablet twice daily after food ▪️External Care Apply kottamchukkadi taila and do upward direction gentle massage Do not do vigrous massage -keep your legs elevated with pillows at night -Avoid very tight clothing ▪️Diet plan Include -Barley water -Horse gram -Warm water ❌Avoid -Excessive salt intake -Packaged processed food -Heavy oily food items ▪️Lifestyle tips -Avoid long standing and sitting -If long standing any work is there use legs stockings -Do gentle walking daily The conditon is manageable but needs consistent treatment and care Wishing you a good health😊 Warm Regards Dr Snehal Vidhate


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Hello, Your symptoms - chronic moderate edema around ankles with dark, bruise like black dots- suggest a condition often linked in Ayurveda to Rakta dushti (impure blood) and shotha (inflammatory swelling), commonly involving vata + kapha imbalance with poor circulation and fluid retention This can also resemble condition like stasis dermatitis or early vascular changes Ayurvedic view -Edema= kapha + vata imbalance -> fluid accumulation -Black dots / discoloration= rakta dushti + poor microcirculation -Chronic digestion issues= weak digestive fire-> toxins buildup-> worsens swelling and skin Internal medications 1) Punarnavadi kashaya= 15ml + warm water twice daily before meals =best for edema, fluid retention, kidney support 2) Guggulutiktakam kashaya= 15ml + warm water twice daily after meals =skin discolouration + blood purification 3) Kaishor Guggulu = 2 tabs twice daily after meals =clears toxins improves circulation, reduces pigmentation External treatment 1) Dhanwantaram taila= gentle upward massage (feet-> calf) daily =improves lymphatic drainage and circulation follow with -warm water foot soak 10-15 mins or -mild steam Diet= keep it simple and strict -warm, light meals -khichdi, soups -barley water excellent for swelling -ginger + garlic improves circulation Avoid -salt excess, packaged food -curd at night -deep fried, cold, fermented foods Lifestyle corrections -elevate legs while resting very important -avoid long sitting/standing -daily walking 20-30 min -gentle ankle rotations improve blood flow Consult immediately if you notice -increasing swelling -pain, redness or warmth -skin becoming hard/thick -shortness of breath These may indicate venous sufficiency, clot risk or systemic issues Your digestive issues + edema + skin changes are interconnected Unless gut is corrected, symptoms will keep recurring Do follow Hope this might be helpful Thank you

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The condition you describe above is due to the vitation of Pitta and Rakhta So we will focus on blood purification and anti inflammatory treatment 1) punarnavadi Kashayam- 15 ml with 45 ml lukewarm water before food morning 6:00 a.m. and evening 6:00 p.m. 2) kaishore gugglu - 2 tablet along with Kashayam 3) saribadyarishtam - 20 ml after food twice daily 4) pinda thailam- gentle application without any pressure once daily Keep the feet elevated above heart level while resting Avoid prolonged standing or sitting. Short, gentle walks within the house Use mild compression stockings if tolerated, but ensure they are not too tight Avoid hot water for washing the legs; use room-temperature water 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇 What to Include: Grains: Old rice (Purana Shali), Barley, and Mung dal. Vegetables: Bitter gourd, Bottle gourd, and Pointed gourd (Parwal). Spices: Turmeric, Ginger, and Coriander. Hydration: Water boiled with Punarnava powder What to Avoid: Salt: Strictly limit salt intake to manage edema. Fermented Foods: Avoid curd, idli/dosa batter, and pickles


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This looks like changes from long term swelling where fluid collects around the ankles and affects small blood vessels leading to dark spots commonly seen in chronic venous insufficiency Get cbc thyroid profile and Doppler study Avoid long standing reduce salt intake


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The black dots and bruise-like patches on your ankles are classic signs of Venous Stasis Dermatitis. Because you have had severe, recurring edema (swelling) for over a year, the extreme fluid pressure in your lower legs has caused the tiny, fragile blood vessels (capillaries) to burst. They leak red blood cells into the skin. When the iron from these cells breaks down, it leaves permanent, rust-colored or black/brown dots. In Ayurveda, this is a clear case of Rakta Dushti (blood impurity) and trapped Kleda (excess fluid) driven by an underlying Apana Vata dysfunction. Your chronic digestive issues are the root cause, creating Ama (toxins) that continuously block these micro-channels. Ayurvedic Prescription 1. Punarnavadi Kashayam Dosage: 15 ml mixed with 15 ml of warm water. Time: Twice daily, 30 minutes before meals. 2. Mahamanjisthadi Kwath Dosage: 15 ml mixed with 15 ml of warm water. Time: Twice daily, 15 minutes after meals. 3. Kaishore Guggulu Dosage: 2 tablets twice daily. Time: Take it together with the Mahamanjisthadi Kwath. ✓Crucial External Care & Rules Leg Elevation: You must elevate your legs above your heart level on 2-3 pillows while sleeping. Gravity is currently your biggest enemy. Compression: Wear medical-grade compression stockings during the day. Put them on in the morning before you get out of bed, while the swelling is at its lowest. Do NOT Massage: Never vigorously massage the dotted or swollen areas, as this will instantly break more fragile capillaries and worsen the black spots. Regards Dr Gursimran Jeet Singh MD Panchakarma


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Start with Punarnavadi kwath tablet 1-1-0 after food with water, will help reduce oedema Mahamanjistadi kadha 15 ml twice daily after food with water, will help as a blood purifier Apply pinda oil on affected area twice daily. Tat this for 21 days, if you see benefits continue, or else personally see doctor for further evaluation.


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