I have severe joint pain includes hands fingers shoulder back pain includes finger tiggers and numbness - #26347
Pain is severre i cant walk after sitting hands are feelsseverr pain from shoulder to hands . Back of the shoulder i have severre pain mainky the pains are in the areas of bones and joints back pain is severe and can’t tolerate
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Don’t worry, First of all avoid excessive spicy, bitter,astringent food,pea,brinjal, cauliflower etc. And start taking, 1Tab.Rumalya forte 1-1-1 2.Mahayograj guggulu 2-0-2 for chewing 3.Maharasnadi kwath 20ml with equal amount of Lukewarm water empty stomach twice in a day. 4.Giloy ghan vati 1-1-1 5.Vednahar vati 1-1-1 **Daily Massage with MAHANARAYAN TAILAM… Follow up after 30 days.
Preventive Measures: Avoiding or minimizing the use of Tikta, Kashaya, Katu rasa and sheeta virya ahara especially Rasayan Sevana (intake of rejuvenation medicine) before 45 years Regular practice of Abhyanga (massage) Navarakhizi (Rice pudding massage) or Phizichil (Oil pouring) once in year after 40 years of age Avoiding jerky movements Avoiding continuous and excessive use of one joint Avoid long standing, walking long distance
Maintaining a healthy weight may be the single most important thing you can do to prevent osteoarthritis
Protect your joints from serious injury or repeated minor injuries to decrease your risk of damaging cartilage Exercise can help reduce joint pain and stiffness. Light- to moderate-intensity physical activity may prevent a decline in, and may even restore, health and function.
Name of medicine & dose
Kala
1.Kokilaksha Guggulu-2 tab/ maha yograj gugglu 2 tab.- after food with guduchi ghrita 10 ml 2 times aday
2) Ashwagnadha Churna-2gm Chopachini Churna-1gm Pippalimula churna-½ gm Gokshura churna-1 gm +Guduchi Churna-1gm - after food with milk 3 times
3. Dhanvantaram taila 101 - 10 drops 30 min after food 2 times in 1 cup warm milk
Yoga Therapy Asana Trikonasna (triangle posture) Padmasana (The Lotus Position) Chakrasana Ardha Chakrasana Shalabhasana (The Locust Posture) . Dhanurasana (The Bow Posture) Vakrasana (Spinal Twist) Viparitakarani (Inverted Posture) Pavanamuktasana Anantasana Shavasana Pranayama Anuloma-Viloma Deep Breathing (15 minutes) Puraka with Right Nostril followed by Bhramari Rechaka (21rounds) Suryabhedana Pranayama with Kumbhaka for 10 minuits Bhastrika Pranayama with Kumbhaka for 10 minuits Meditation Meditation for 20 minutes
Diet and Lifestyle Milk, cow’s ghee, carrot, green vegetables spinach, methi, green onion, cod liver oil. Eat light vegetable foods. Take alkaline content fruits like sweet lemon and orange, pineapple, etc.
Correction of poor posture and a support for excessive lumbar lordosis can be helpful.
Obese patients should be counseled to lose weight. In patients with medial-compartment knee Osteoarthritis, a wedged insole may decrease joint pain.
Physical therapy and supportive devices can be helpful.
Rest during the day may be of benefit, but complete immobilization of the painful joint is rarely advised.
An exercise program should be planned to maintain range of movement, strengthen periarticular muscles, and improve the physical fitness.
Disuse of the osteoarthritis joint because of pain will lead to muscle atrophy. To prevent strengthening exercises should be advised.
Apathya Excessive loading of the involved joint should be avoided. Patients with osteoarthritis of the knee or hip should avoid prolonged standing, kneeling, and squatting.
HELLO ARCHA,
You are experiencing -severe pain in multiple joints-hands, fingers, shoulders, and back -stiffness after sitting -tingling or numbness -trigger fingers(finger locking) -difficulty walking after sitting, and pain that feels like it’s deep in the bones and joints
These symptoms strongly point toward a chronic musculoskeletal condition involving -inflammation or damage in the joints(arthritis like symptoms) -nerve irritation or compression causing numbness and tingling -severe vata imbalance in Ayurvedic terms-this causes dryness, stiffness, cracking, and pain in the body
Ayurveda calls such a condition “Vata vyadhi”- which means diseases caused by aggravated vata dosha, especially joints, bones, and nerves
TREATMENT GOALS
1) REMOVE TOXINS= ama clogs your body’s natural pathways(srotas) , causing pain and stiffness 2) BALANCE VATA= excess vata causes dryness, cracking, joint pain, and nerve issues 3) STRENGTHEN BONES, JOINTS AND NERVES= improve strength and stability 4) LUBRICATE JOINTS= prevent stiffness and pain by nourishing joints 5) REDUCE INFLAMMATION AND PAIN= through medications and oil therapes 6) PREVENT RECURRENCE= make lifestyle/diet changes to stop flare ups
INTERNAL MEDICATIONS
1) MAHAYOGARAJ GUGGULU= 2 tabs twice daily after meals for 3 months = balances vata, detoxifies joints, reduces pain and swelling
2) MAHARASNADI KASHAYA= 15 ml with warm water twice daily before meals for 3 months =works on chronic vata disorders like joint pain, sciatica, and back stiffness
3) RASNASAPTAKAM KASHAYA= 15ml with warm water twice daily after meals for 2 months =reduces stiffness and pain, especially in upper limbs
4) ASHWAGANDHA CHURNA= 1 tsp with warm milk at bedtime =strengthen bones, muscles, nerves , reduces stress and fatigue
5) DASHMOOLA HARITAKI LEHYA= 1 tsp at night for 2 months =supports vata balance, improves digestion, relieves chronic pain
EXTERNAL TREATMENTS
1) OIL MASSAGE= MAHANARAYAN TAILA -warm oil massage to affected joints, followed by hot water bath or steam =lubricates joints, reduces pain. nourishes nerves
2) HOT FOMENTATION -by hot towel compress after massage =opens channels , relieves stiffness and pain
DIET TO BE BALANCE
AVOID -cold, dry foods(chips, cold salads) -raw vegetables and fermented foods -curd at night -excess tea, coffee, or carbonated drinks -tomatoes, brinjal, potato avoid
INCLUDE -warm, cooked meals- soups, stews, khichdi -ghee= natural vata pacifier -spices= ginger, cumin, turmeric, ajwain-improve digestion and reduce ama -Warm water throughout the day -milk with turmeric and ashwagandha at bedtime
YOGA AND PRANAYAM
RECOMMENDED ASANAS -bhujangasana= improves spine flexibility -Marjaryasana-bitilasana= relieves back and neck stiffness -setu bandhasana= strengthens back, knees, hips -shavasana= relaxation and stress relief
PRANAYAM -Anulom Vilom= balances all doshas -Bhramari= calms nervous system -Deep belly breathing= relaxes muscles, improves oxygen flow
HOME REMEDIES
1) TURMERIC + GHEE= 1/2 tsp turmeric in warm ghee or milk =anti inflamamtory
2) DRY GINGER + AJWAIN POWDER= 1 tsp in warm water after meals =improves digestion, reduces gas and stiffness
3) CASTOR OIL MASSAGE AT NIGHT= on back and joints, cover with warm cloth =vata pacifier and relieves stiffness
4) FENUGREEK (methi) soaked seeds= chew soaked seeds in morning =reduces swelling and balance vata/kapha
INVESTIGATIONS NEEDED -RA factor, Anti-CCP= rule out rheumatoid arthritis -Vitamin D, B12 levels -ESR, CRP- inflammation markers -X-RAY or MRI (shoulder, spine)= check joint and nerve status -Thyroid= sometimes related to joint pain
LIFESTYLE ADVICE -wake up early, sleep early -apply warm oil before bath -use hot water for bathing, especially in winter -avoid sleeping during day -no staying up late at night -wear warm clothes if sensitive to cold -avoid mental stress- it worsens vata imbalance -use wooden/fiber chairs; avoid very soft couches
Your symptoms are serious, but Ayurveda offers very effective support when practiced consistently. You can get pain relief, improved flexibility, and reversal of symptoms over time- but it requires discipline with -medicines -oil therapies -lifestyle correction -clean diet -gentle yoga
You’re young 27 , so with 2-3 months of focused care, most of your symptoms can be brought under control
DO FOLLOW CONSISTENTLY
HOPE THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL
THANK YOU
DR. MAITRI ACHARYA
Take Trayodashang guggul 1-0-1 after food with water Ekangvir ras 1-0-1 after food with water Avipattikar tablet 1-0-1 after food with water Apply mahanarayan oil on affected area twice daily Avoid sour fermented foods. Follow up after 1 month
Have you consulted any consultant regarding your issue?? If yes did they advise any investigation lik CBC with esr / crp/ RA FACTOR/ sr uric acid?? If not pls get it done
Have you undergone any test for it?
hello archa ,
Based on what you’re experiencing, it sounds like there is a systemic issue involving inflammation in your joints and muscles, especially around the shoulders, upper limbs, and spine. Since you are only 27 and already facing this level of pain, we should consider two main possibilities:
Aamavata (which is similar to rheumatoid-type joint inflammation in Ayurveda), where undigested toxins (aama) accumulate in the body and lodge in joints, causing stiffness, swelling, and intense pain. Vata vyadhi (vata aggravation in asthi-sandhi), especially if the pain is sharp, radiating, and worsens after rest (classic sign of Vata dominance). The fact that pain increases after sitting and involves bone-deep ache also suggests chronic Vata-kapha imbalance with accumulation of Aama. This condition needs to be addressed step by step.
Treatment Plan (Ayurvedic)
1. Ama Pachana (3–5 days):
Trikatu Churna – 1/2 tsp with honey twice daily before food Ajamodadi Churna – 1 tsp with warm water after food
2. Main Internal Medicines (for 1 month):
Simhanada Guggulu – 2 tablets twice a day after food Yogaraja Guggulu – 2 tablets twice a day after food Maharasnadi Kashayam – 15 ml with 45 ml warm water twice daily before meals Dashamoola Rasayanam – 1 tsp with warm milk at bedtime
3. External Support:
Kottamchukkadi Tailam or Dhanwantaram Tailam – Warm oil massage over painful joints daily before bath After 7 days, begin gentle hot fomentation (nadi swedana if available) on painful areas Please avoid cold foods, curd, heavy meals, and stale food. Include warm, easily digestible meals with ghee and spices like ginger, ajwain, cumin.
If symptoms persist or worsen, blood tests like ESR, CRP, RA factor, uric acid, vitamin D may help rule out deeper autoimmune or deficiency-related issues.
If you have any doubts, you can contact me. Take care, Regards, dr.Karthika
Considering the intense nature of your pain and its widespread impact on various parts of your body, it’s imperative to seek immediate medical assistance. It’s crucial to rule out any emergencies like severe autoimmune disorders, rheumatoid arthritis or other potentially serious conditions that require specialized medical intervention. While Ayurveda offers preventive care and support for long-term health management, for acute or severe cases such as yours, modern medical evaluation should be prioritized without delay.
For managing chronic joint pain once any serious conditions are ruled out, Ayurveda emphasizes balancing Vata dosha, as your symptoms reflect Vata vitiation. This may be supported alongside allopathic care, not as a replacement.
1. Herb Support: Guggulu-based formulations like Yogaraja Guggulu are traditionally used for joint pains, but consult with a qualified Ayurvedic practitioner before starting. It helps in detoxifying body tissues and offering joint health support.
2. Diet: Warm, cooked meals with adequate good fats like ghee can soothe vata agitations. Eating warm and freshly cooked foods, avoiding raw and cold foods, may stabilize the Dosha. Incorporate cooked greens and root vegetables, as well as anti-inflammatory spices like turmeric and ginger.
3. Oil Therapy (Abhyanga): Apply warm sesame oil gently on the affected areas. Leave it for at least 20 minutes before taking a warm shower. This nourish and sooth the aggravated Vata.
4. Gentle Movement: Engage in gentle stretches as per your comfort, especially in the morning. Remember, it’s crucial not to overexert or inflame the joints during such routines.
These steps can serve to alleviate symptoms over time, but are not substitutes for urgent medical evaluation given the severity of your symptoms.
Severe pain in your joints, hands, shoulders, and back, accompanied by numbness and twinging fingers, suggests a potential imbalance of the Vata dosha. This dosha, when aggravated, can create stiffness, pain, and discomfort in the joints and nerves. Here are some Siddha-Ayurvedic approaches that might help alleviate your condition:
1. Natural Pain Management: Use a warm medicated oil like Mahanarayan oil for external application. Gently massage the oil on the affected joints two or three times daily. Warming the oil slightly before use can enhance its effectiveness.
2. Dietary Considerations: Favor warm, moist, and oily foods to stabilize Vata. Add spices like ginger and turmeric, known for their anti-inflammatory properties. Avoid cold, dry, and light foods as they can aggravate Vatta symptoms.
3. Herbal Remedies: Consider consuming herbal formulations like Ashwagandha and Guggul. These have revitalizing and anti-inflammatory properties aiding in joint pain. Consult a qualified practitioner for personalized dosage recommendations.
4. Lifestyle Adjustments: Incorporating a daily routine with regularity helps pacify Vata. Engage in gentle exercises or yoga, focusing on flexibility and alignment. Keep yourself warm as exposure to cold can worsen your symptoms.
5. Sitz Bath with Epsom Salt: This can provide gentle relaxation and help in reducing back and joint pain. Ensure the water is warm, not hot.
However, considering the severity of your symptoms, I strongly recommend you seek immediate medical consultation to rule out any urgent underlying conditions, such as inflammatory disorders or nerve compression issues. While these Ayurvedic practices can be beneficial, it’s essential to ensure there is no serious underlying condition requiring prompt attention.
HELLO ARCHA,
you’re going through such intense pain. based on your symtpoms= severe joint pain, shoulder-to-hand pain, finger triggering numbness, back pain and difficulty walking after sitting- there may be involvement of -vata imbalance according to ayurveda -possible sandhivata osteoarthritis like condition -aama vata similar to rheumatoid arthritis -ghridhrasi= if sciatica type pain in involved -possibly muscle and nerve compression eg cervial lumbar spondylosis
DIAGNOSIS PROBABLE -AMA VATA= due to accumulation of undigested toxins and vata dosha -SANDHIVATA= vata affecting the joints -VATA VYADHI= generalised vata disorder
INTERNAL MEDICINES
FOR AMAVATA AND JOINT PAIN
-SIMHANADA GUGGULU= 2 tabs twice daily after meals with warm water
-MAHARASNADHI KASHAYA= 15 ml with water twice daily before meals
-YOGARAJ GUGGULU= 2 tabs twice daily after meals
-RASNASAPTAK KASHAY= 15 ml with water twice daily after meals
FOR INFLAMMATION AND NERVE SUPPORT
-ASHWAGANDHA TABLETS= 2 tabs at night with warm milk for strength and anti inflamatory
-DASHMOOLA KASAHYA= 20 ml with water twice daily for deep pain relief and detox
-ERANDA TAILA= 1 tsp with warm milk at night mild internal purgation for reducing ama
EXTERNAM TREATMENTS
-OIL MASSAGE= daily with dhanwantaram taila -followed by hot water fomentation
DIET RECOMMENDTIONS
AVOID -cold,dry, and raw food -heavy to digest foods panner red meat etc -fermented foods idli,dosa -vegetables like tomato , brinjal-if RA is suspected
FAVOUR -warm, cooked , spiced food -ginger, garlic, turmeric -warm water with a pinch of dry ginger or cumin -ghee in moderation
LIFESTYLE -avoid sitting in cold or damp places -gentle stretching like marjariasana, bhujangasana, - if tolerable -warm bath daily with epsom salt
THANK YOU
DR. HEMANSHU MEHTA
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