Effectiveness of Ayurvedic Treatments for Vestibular Schwannoma - #47690

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1. Are Ayurvedic Treatments Effective for Vestibular Schwannoma?

- No strong scientific evidence supports Ayurvedic medicine as an effective primary treatment to shrink or cure a vestibular schwannoma — especially when compared to established medical approaches like surveillance, radiosurgery (e.g., Gamma Knife), or microsurgery.

What Evidence Exists? - Conventional Medicine: - Clinical evidence strongly supports conservative surveillance (monitoring), radiosurgery, or surgical removal for vestibular schwannomas. Radiosurgery, for example, is shown to stabilize or sometimes slightly improve hearing while controlling tumor growth.

- Ayurveda: There are case reports and small case-series in Ayurvedic and alternative medicine journals reporting subjective improvement in hearing or ear‑related symptoms when using herbs or Panchakarma procedures for general ear disorders or sensorineural hearing loss syndromes — but not specifically vestibular schwannoma.

- Case reports might use herbs like Ashwagandha, Brahmi, Sarivadi Vati, and procedures like Nasya and Karnapurana for hearing improvement.

- Such reports do not prove that an Ayurvedic regimen reduces tumor size or cures the tumor, nor are they validated through rigorous controlled trials.

- Important Reality Check Vestibular schwannoma is a true tumor (benign nerve sheath tumor) that grows from the nerve cells. Because of its nature, spontaneous regression is uncommon, and no reliable herbal or alternative medication has been proven to stop its growth.

- Ayurvedic treatments might help with general symptoms (e.g., stress, sleep, general nerve health) but should not replace medical monitoring and specialist care. ✨✨✨ 2. Reputable Doctors in Bangkok, Thailand Yes — Bangkok has reputable, experienced specialists in neurology and neurosurgery who can diagnose and manage vestibular schwannoma. Some examples (from international medical listings):- - Assoc. Prof. Dr. Sombat Muengtaweepongsa – Neurologist at Phyathai 2 Hospital (extensive experience in brain and nerve disorders).

- Dr. Peerapong Montriwiwatchai – Neurosurgeon at Bangpakok 9 International Hospital (experienced in tumors and spine surgery).

You may also consider consulting ENT (otolaryngology) specialists and radiosurgery centers (Gamma Knife/CyberKnife) in major Bangkok hospitals — they’re often involved in vestibular schwannoma care.

3. What Are the Real Evidence‑Based Treatment Options? - Here’s how vestibular schwannoma is usually approached medically:

Evidence Level Observation / Watch & Wait - Follow growth with MRI if tumor small & symptoms minimal - High for select cases - Stereotactic Radiosurgery (e.g., Gamma Knife) - Controls growth, sometimes preserves hearing Strong clinical evidence

- Microsurgical Removal - Removes tumor entirely (but higher risk to hearing - Standard in larger/more symptomatic tumors - No approved drug therapy currently exists specifically indicated for vestibular schwannoma tumor shrinkage.

4. Ayurvedic Prescription? (With Caution) Because Ayurveda does not have standardized evidence‑based protocols for actual tumor shrinkage, I cannot provide a safe medical dosage regimen intended to treat the tumor itself. Giving doses for serious conditions without clinical responsibility would be unsafe.

If you still wish to integrate Ayurveda as supportive care, here is what is commonly described in clinical case reports (these are supportive, not curative): 🔹 Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) – used for general nerve health and stress 🔹 Brahmi / Sarivadi Vati – herbs traditionally used for nervous system support 🔹 Karnapurana (ear oil therapy) & Nasya (nasal medicated oil) – procedural therapies used in classical Ayurveda for ear and head dosha balance ➡ These treatments are typically personalized by an Ayurvedic physician based on your body type (Prakriti), balance of doshas, overall health, and symptoms, not a one‑size‑fits‑all dose. Dosages and procedures must be tailored by a qualified practitioner.

⚠️ Important: Do not self‑administer herbs or procedures for serious tumors without close coordination with your neurologist/neurosurgeon.

5. Safe Integration Strategy (Recommended) Get a confirmatory MRI and neurologic evaluation — initial baseline and growth monitoring. See an ENT/neurosurgeon in Bangkok or in India for expert opinion on treatment options.

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I understand your concern and want to reassure you that Ayurveda can be used as a focused and professional approach to work on reducing the size of a vestibular schwannoma while also controlling its progression and protecting nerve function

When treatment is started early the approach is personalised and aimed at correcting internal imbalance improving circulation around the affected nerve reducing abnormal tissue growth and supporting nerve health in a gradual and safe manner The intention is not aggressive suppression but steady regulation and support of the body so that changes can be reflected over time on follow up imaging

Since your diagnosis is recent and no treatment has been taken yet this is an appropriate and valuable time to begin Ayurvedic management At this stage the body is more receptive and the scope for size control and symptom management is better Regular MRI monitoring should always continue so that progress is assessed Regarding treatment options in Bangkok the key factor is the doctors clinical experience and ethical practice rather than location Choose someone who evaluates your reports plans treatment carefully and encourages continued medical monitoring

You can continue ENT or neurological supervision along with Ayurvedic treatment This balanced approach allows safety clarity and long term benefit

VESTIBULAR SCHWANNOMA IS A BENIGN NERVE RELATED CONDITION AND AYURVEDA DOES NOT CLAIM COMPLETE CURE OR TUMOR REMOVAL

AYURVEDIC TREATMENT IS GIVEN TO SUPPORT NERVE HEALTH SLOW PROGRESSION IMPROVE HEARING FUNCTION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND MAINTAIN OVERALL BALANCE

THE FOLLOWING AYURVEDIC MEDICINES CAN BE TAKEN

BEAHMI VATI ONE TABLET TWICE DAILY AFTER FOOD WITH WARM WATER FOR NERVE SUPPORT AND MENTAL CALMNESS

KANCHANAR GUGGULU TWO TABLETS TWICE DAILY AFTER FOOD WITH WARM WATER TO SUPPORT ABNORMAL TISSUE GROWTH BALANCE

VRIDDHIBADIKA VATI ONE TABLET TWICE DAILY AFTER FOOD WITH WARM WATER FOR SUPPORT IN BENIGN GROWTH CONDITIONS ANU TAILA -TWO DROPS IN EACH NOSTRIL IN THE MORNING

AVOID STRESS LOUD NOISE LATE NIGHTS AND HEAVY FOOD FOLLOW REGULAR SLEEP AND SIMPLE DIET AYURVEDIC TREATMENT SHOULD BE CONTINUED WITH REGULAR MRI MONITORING AND CONSULTATION WITH A NEUROLOGIST AYURVEDA WORKS AS SUPPORTIVE CARE AND SHOULD NOT DELAY MODERN MEDICAL DECISIONS

In short no but some medicine have shown slight results but not to be dependent on those medicines 1. Kanchnar guggul 2BD A F 2. Pathyadi kashya 50 ml BF Take these for 1 month.

you can try 1) kanchnar gugglu 2 goli subha sham khane ke baad 2) indu vati 2 goli subha sham khane ke baad

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Vestibular schwaanoma is a tumor of nerve tissue so in ayurveda we don’t have any specific medicine or treatment for extra growth of nerve issue but we have medicine for any extra growth in the body Please acknowledge the medicine we prescribe in ayurveda are only for symptomatic relief and general treatment and we can’t guarantee u that with ayurvedic medicine the issue cannot be completely cured u need allopathic intervention for the same For now start with Kanchanara Guggulu Tab 1-0-1 after food Arogyavardhini vati 1-0-1 after food Triphala Guggulu 1-0-1 after food Sarivadhi vati tab 1-0-1 after food

Take kanchanar gugulu 2 bd Visit ENT AYURVEDA MD

I think no any doctor at bankok ENT IN AYURVEDA U VISIT INDIA

HELLO,

Ayurveda cannot cure or shrink a Vestibular Schwannoma (abenign nerve tumor). There is no scientific evidence thatAyurvedic mediicnes can eliminate the tumor

WHAT AYURVEDA CAN HELP WITH -symptom support (hearing strain, tinnitus, imbalance) -nervous system nourishment -slowing functional deterioration (supportive, not guaranteed) -improving quality of life -reducng inflammation and oxidative stress

IMPORTANT MEDICAL CLARITY -Vestibular schwannoma is a structural tumor of the vestibular nerve Definitive management remains -observation (wait and scan) -microsurgery -stereotactic radiotherapy

AYURVEDA SHOULD BE USED ONLY AS A COMPLEMENTORY APPROACH, NOT AS A REPLACEMENT FOR ENT/NEUROSURGICAL FOLLOW UP

AYURVEDIC VIEW In Ayurveda, this condition is viewed as -Vata predominance (nerve degeneration , hearing loss) -Associated kapha imbalance (slow growing mass) -Involvement of Majja dhatu (nervous tissue) and Shravan Indriya (hearing apparatus)

INTERNAL MEDICATIONS

1) BRAHMI VATI= 1 tab twice dail after meals

2) GUDUCHI GHAN VATI= 2 tabs twice daily after meals

3) KSHEERBALA CAPSULES= 1 cap twice daily after meals

4) SHALLAKI CAPSULES = 1 cap twice daily after meals

5) ASHWAGANDHA = 1 tsp with warm milk at night

PANCHAKARMA AND EXTERNAL THERAPIES

NASYA= instil l2 drops of ksheerbala oil in each nostril every morning =helps cranial nerves and ear related symptoms

SHIRODHARA= calms nervous system, improves neurovasular balance

KARNAPOORANA = for autirdorty nerve nourishment

DIET AND LIFESTYLE -warm, freshly cooked meals -ghee, milk if tolerated -almonds, dates, figs -adequate sleep, stress reduction

AVOID -cold, dry, processed foods -excess caffeine -loud noise exposure -prolonged headphone use

YOGA AND MIND BODY SUPPORT -Gentle Pranayam - Anulom Vilom, bhramari -Meditation for autonomic balance

ARE THERE REPUTED AYURVEDIC DOCTORS IN BANGKOK, THAILAND? -Bnagkok has strong allopathic ENT and neurosurgery servces -Authentic classical Ayurvedispecialists are limited -Man Ayurveda centres are wellness/spa-bbased, not tumor focused

PRACTICAL ADVICE IF IN BANGKOK -Continue follow up with ENT/Neuro-otology -Use Ayurveda only as adjunct supportive care

FOR AUTHENTIC AYURVEDIC TUMOR- SUPPORT PROTOCOLS -India (kerala, Karnataka, Maharashtra) has more experienced centres -Tele consultation with senior Ayurvedic physician is often safer

THANK YOU

DR. MAITRI ACHARYA

For Vestibular schwannoma in ayurveda there is no strong scientific evidence that it can shrink or cure a vestibular schwannoma. There is panchakarma treatment and therapy that can be given. Ayurvedic medicine given are Brahmi ghanvati 1-0-1 after food with water, as brain tonic ashwagandha, as nerve rejuvenator Giloy ghanvati 1-0-1 after food with water,to support immunity. Kanchanar guggul 1-0-1 after food with water to reduce cyst size. Do pranayam lom -vilom bhastrika bhamri 5-10mins twice daily.