How to lower my blood sugar levels when they're consistently around 150 despite taking Madhunashini and Chandraprabha Vati? - #56498
I am Neeraj Gupta , 58 yrs old. My avaerage blood sugar is 150 and HBA1C is 6.8. fasting blood Sugar remain upto 100- 115 monitored thru Glucomet device. I am consuming Patanjali Madhunashini extra power andDhootpapeshwaer chandrprabha vati : 2 each x two times since last 3 months. but My Blood sugar ramian same.
How long have you been monitoring your blood sugar levels?:
- More than 6 monthsHave you made any changes to your diet in the last few months?:
- Yes, I follow a strict dietHow often do you engage in physical activity or exercise?:
- DailyHave you experienced any symptoms related to high blood sugar, like increased thirst or fatigue?:
- RarelyWhat is your typical daily routine like, including meals and snacks?:
- Regular meals with healthy snacksHave you consulted with a healthcare professional about your blood sugar management?:
- No, I manage it myselfWhat is your family history regarding diabetes or blood sugar issues?:
- No family historyDoctors' responses
●Namaste🙏, Mr. Gupta.As a practitioner of Ayurveda, I understand your concern. You have been managing your blood sugar levels with discipline, yet you feel as though you have reached a plateau. In Ayurveda, we view blood sugar management not merely as a task of lowering numbers, but as a holistic endeavor to balance the Doshas specifically Kapha (the structural, stabilizing energy) and Meda (adipose tissue) while simultaneously kindling your Agni(digestive fire) to ensure proper metabolism. It is quite common for the body to become accustomed to a specific herbal regimen over time. When your Doshas have reached a state of relative equilibrium, the current formulation may simply be maintaining that balance rather than pushing for further improvement. This is where the Principle of Multi-Medicine Formula becomes invaluable. Combining multiple medicinal agents is often more effective than single medications because they work synergistically to simultaneously act on Kapha-Meda, normalize Agni, nourish Dhatus (tissues), and cleanse the Srotas (body channels). ●The Role of Diet and Lifestyle In Ayurveda, we hold a fundamental belief: if the diet is not correct, even the most potent medicine cannot manifest its full effect. Diabetes management requires a balance, not total abstinence. The primary purpose of your diet should be to prevent the increase of Kapha (phlegm), reduce excess fat, and stabilize your digestive fire. ●What to eat: Focus on grains that are light, rough, and anti-phlegm, such as barley, kodo millet, savanna, and old rice (Shashtik Shali). You may include mung bean, gram, pigeon pea, and horse gram (Kulathi) for protein. Limit wheat and completely avoid “new” grains. For vegetables, favor bitter and astringent profiles: bitter gourd, fenugreek, pointed gourd, drumstick, radish, cucumber, bottle gourd, ridge gourd, and spinach. These are excellent for gently balancing your system. ●What to drink:Favor buttermilk (takra) and lukewarm water. Triphala water or specialized herbal waters like Kushodak may be beneficial. Please strictly avoid packaged juices, cold water, and sugary drinks. ●What to avoid:Limit or avoid sweets, white flour (maida), fried foods, excessive oils, potatoes, sweet potatoes, and heavy fruits. Yogurt should specifically be avoided at night, as it increases Kapha. ●Therapeutic Formulation Regarding your current medications, it may be time to transition to a more comprehensive approach. An effective custom herbal compound, which I often recommend, consists of the following components (25 grams each): ▪︎Bitter gourd seeds, Gudmar (Gymnema), Wild jamun seeds, Neem, Giloy, Ashwagandha, Neem bark, Belpatra, Triphala, and Turmeric. To this, we add ▪︎Pure Shilajit (50 grams) and ▪︎Trivanga Bhasma (12 grams). This specific combination is highly effective for phlegm absorption, ama (toxin) reduction, and metal balancing. Generally, this combination is taken in quantities of 2 to 3 grams, one or two times a day, preferably with warm water or buttermilk, before meals. However, please note that the exact quantity must be adjusted according to your unique constitution, current age, and the severity of the disease state. ●Integration of New Therapies To address your plateau, you may consider integrating high-quality, clinically recognized preparations. The Glymin range by Kerala Ayurveda is well-regarded for its synergistic action: ▪︎Glymin Tablets and Glymin Plus Tablets are formulated to support long-term glucose management. ▪︎Glymin Diabetic Drink serves as a supportive supplement. ▪︎Nisakathakadi Kwath Tablets are particularly renowned in our tradition for their efficacy in managing blood sugar and addressing complications associated with Prameha (metabolic disorders). ▪︎Important Medical Guidance:While these herbal interventions are grounded in centuries of Ayurvedic practice, please consult with your local primary care physician or a qualified Ayurvedic practitioner in your vicinity before making significant changes to your medication regimen. As you are 58 and monitoring your glucose levels closely, it is vital to ensure that these herbal changes are integrated safely with your overall health profile to avoid hypoglycemia. To help me provide even more tailored guidance for your journey, could you tell me if you have experienced any other symptoms, such as increased thirst, fatigue, or changes in digestion, lately?
••Hello Neeraj ji. It is good that you are proactively monitoring your blood sugar levels with a glucometer and keeping track of your HbA1c. Let’s analyze your current readings and your Ayurvedic regimen from a clinical perspective to understand why your levels might be plateauing. 1. Understanding Your Current Reports From an Ayurvedic and modern standpoint, your readings indicate Pre-diabetes moving into early-stage Diabetes (Prameha): •Fasting Blood Sugar (100–115 mg/dL): This is slightly elevated (impaired fasting glucose), but notably, it is close to a manageable range. •HbA1c (6.8%): This reflects your average blood sugar over the last 3 months. A level of 6.8% confirms mild diabetes. ••Average Blood Sugar (150 mg/dL): This correlates directly with your 6.8% HbA1c, meaning your post-meal (postprandial) spikes are likely what is keeping your overall 3-month average high, even if your fasting numbers look decent. 2. Analysis of Your Current Ayurvedic Regimen You have been taking two very standard and potent classical formulations for the last 3 months: ••Patanjali Madhunashini Vati Extra Power: Contains herbs like Gudmar (Gymnema sylvestre), Karela (Bitter gourd), Neem, and Giloy. These are Tikta-Kashaya Rasa (bitter-astringent) herbs that help scrape excess fat (Meda) and control glucose absorption. ••Dhootapapeshwar Chandraprabha Vati: A brilliant classical formulation containing Shilajit and Guggulu. In Prameha (diabetes), it acts as a Rasayana (rejuvenator) that protects the kidneys and improves urinary tract health, which is vital since diabetes is primarily a disease of the urinary channels (Mutravaha Srotas) in Ayurveda. •Why are your levels staying the same? Ayurveda never treats diabetes solely with a “pill for a disease” approach. If the herbs are high-quality (which both of these brands are) but your sugar isn’t dropping, it usually means: ••Dhatu Agnimandya (Weak Tissue Metabolism): The herbs are regulating glucose in the gut, but your deep tissues are not metabolizing it efficiently. ••Dietary/Lifestyle Mismatch (Apathya): The herbs are working hard, but the intake of Kapha-aggravating foods or a sedentary routine might be neutralizing their effects. ••Dosage/Timing Adjustment: Taking 4 heavy tablets at a time, twice a day, might need a tweak in terms of timing or an Anupana (vehicle/carrier fluid) to enhance absorption. 3. Recommended Ayurvedic & Lifestyle Modifications To break this plateau, we need to focus on improving your metabolic fire (Dhatu Agni) so your body actually utilizes the glucose in your blood. A. Medication Adjustments (To Discuss with Your Direct Physician) Continue your current tablets, but change ••the vehicle (Anupana): Instead of plain water, take your morning dose of Madhunashini and Chandraprabha Vati with lukewarm warm water mixed with half a teaspoon of organic Amla powder and a pinch of Turmeric (Haridra). Amla and Turmeric form Nisha-Amalaki, the ultimate classical combination for Prameha that drastically reduces insulin resistance. ••Consider adding a digestive stimulant: If your digestion feels heavy, adding Triphala Churna (1 tsp) with warm water at bedtime can clear toxins (Ama) from the bowel, allowing your diabetes medicines to absorb much better. B. Targeted Dietary Shifts (Ahara) Since your fasting is relatively okay but your average is 150, we need to tackle post-meal spikes: ••Switch the Grain: Minimize white rice and refined wheat (Maida). Switch to Barley (Yava), Jowar (Sorghum), or Finger Millet (Ragi). Barley is explicitly praised in Ayurveda as the best grain for diabetes because it dries up excess metabolic moisture (Kleda). ••The Bitter Factor: Include bitter vegetables like Karela (bitter gourd), Methi (fenugreek leaves), and Parwal (pointed gourd) in at least one meal a day. ••Dinner Timing: Ensure your dinner is light and completed by 7:30 PM to prevent morning fasting spikes. C. Daily Regime (Vihara) ••The “1000 Steps” Rule: Ayurveda highly emphasizes Chankramana (brisk walking). Walk for 15–20 minutes specifically after lunch and dinner. This immediately helps clear the post-meal glucose from your bloodstream. ••Yoga: Practice Mandukasana (Frog pose) and Kapalbhati pranayama daily for 15 minutes on an empty stomach to stimulate the pancreas.
well My routine Practice is: 1. Chandraprabha vati with milk after breakfast and at bed time. 2. madhunashini with luke warm water in empty stomach in the morning and 30 minutes before Dinner.but I take two tabs triphala also of 500 mg with it. 3. daily 2 hrs brisk walking 4. In the breakfast : one apple and one glass of milk without sugar. 5. no maida, no junk food, I take multigrain ( wheat, chana, jawar, jaun) chapati in luch and dinner with lenthil and vegitable. Rice once in a week. 6. No alcohol, pan, smoking etc. 7. No deep fried food, But prantha once in 15 days on holiday as a Brunch.
Ok…good…but you change chandra prava vati is not taking by milk is taking by normal water…after food
thanks, but even following the controlled practice, no improvement is there.
How long time r u take medicine…
more than 3 months
Kk now add 1 more medicine in your line of treatment for sugar…vasant kusumakar ras 0-0-1 after food with normal water in night only
ye toh costly h
Hmm this is gold preparation tablet …but very useful in diabetic…you can take 10 days than follow up me…in 10 days you feel your diabetic is under control is you feel is very good…
ok
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