Hello I completely get what you mean. A lack of good sleep for an elderly person, especially one who already has Meniere’s disease, can be a situation that both the patient and the family find very upsetting. But don’t worry, we got your back 😊
YOUR CONCERN - SUMMARY
Your father: Age: 66 years Diagnosed with Meniere’s problem Started Duralabha Ghan Vati + Jyotishmati Ghan Vati
👉 2 tablets, 3 times a day
Since starting the medicines (last 4 days): Complete loss of sleep Anxiety and restlessness Sleep problem duration: 1-2 weeks
AYURVEDIC EXPLANATION
According to Ayurveda: Meniere’s disease is mostly the case of Vata + Kapha imbalance in Shiro & Karna pradesha
Jyotishmati is: Highly Ushna (hot) Teekshna (stimulating) Medhya but activating
In case of senior people, too much Ushna & Teekshna drugs can: Increase Vata Impair Anxiety, over-stimulation, insomnia
👉 Therefore, I think these drugs may be the reason for his sleeplessness, especially this dose and frequency.
IMMEDIATE STEPS (VERY IMPORTANT)
1. Jyotishmati Ghan Vati should be stopped right away At this dose, it is not a 66-year-old suitable Insomnia, anxiety, palpitations are among the most common side effects of this drug
2. Either stop or temporarily reduce the dosage of Duralabha Ghan Vati If dizziness is under control, take a break for 2-3 days Only after sleep is back to normal, continue again
👉 This is a necessary and safe procedure here.
SLEEP CORRECTION - AYURVEDIC SUPPORT INTERNAL MEDICATION (Safe for Elderly)
Brahmi Vati (plain) 👉 1 tablet after dinner
Saraswatarishta 👉 10 ml + an equal amount of water after dinner
Ashwagandha Churna 👉 ½ tsp with warm milk at night(If milk is tolerated)
All of these pacify Vata, ease anxiety, and allow the body to rest naturally.
NIGHT ROUTINE (VERY IMPORTANT)
Eat light before 8 pm
Avoid: Tea / coffee after 4 pmMobile / TV after 9 pm Do a gentle foot massage with warm sesame oil before bedtime
If you are agitated, try lukewarm water on your feet
WHAT TO EXPECT – After the discontinuation of Jyotishmati, sleep generally gets better within 2–4 nights – Anxiety will lessen by degrees
– Meniere’s treatment can be resumed with safer alternatives and lower doses once the sleep is stable
⚠️ Brain-stimulating herbs should not be given to elderly patients continuously without sleep monitoring.
More medicine does not imply faster recovery in Ayurveda.
Warm regards, Dr Snehal Vidhate
Hi, Thanks for your question,
Understand it carefully step by step-
❗ Problem ka main reason (sabse pehle samjhiye) Aapke father ko Ménière’s disease hai aur unko ap de rhe h - 1)Duralabha 2)Jyotishmati (Celastrus paniculatus) ghan tablet Dose: 2–2 tablet, din me 3 baar Age: 66 years
👉 Jyotishmati ek teekhi, stimulant aur rajasic medicine hai 👉 Ye brain ko stimulate karti hai, shant nahi karti 🔴 Isliye kya hua? -Neend bilkul nahi aa rahi -Anxiety badh gayi -Man restless ho gaya 👉 Ye side effect hai, disease badhne ka sign nahi 🧠 Ayurveda ke hisaab se kya galti hui? ✨Ménière’s disease me hota hai: -Vata + Kapha disorder -Brain aur inner ear already sensitive hote hain
Jyotishmati: -Vata ko aur tez karti hai -Raat ki neend ko block kar deti hai -Elderly patients me ye effect bahut strong hota hai 👉 66 saal ke patient me itni high dose bilkul suit nahi karti ✅ Turant kya karna chahiye (IMPORTANT) 1️⃣ Jyotishmati ghan tablet TURANT band karein Ya kam se kam: ❌ raat ki dose bilkul band ❌ shaam ke baad na dein Sirf ye step lene se bhi 2–4 din me neend wapas aane lagti hai 2️⃣ Duralabha ka kya? -Duralabha zyada stimulant nahi hoti -Lekin raat ki dose avoid karein
👍Now what to do
Treatment - 1) ashwagandha churn 3gm at bed time with warm milk 2) brahmi vati 1 tab at night after meal 3) message of sole and head with sheerbala taila at night
Thanks Follow up after 15 days
Hello, Is he on any allopathy medications, if so it wouls be helpful if you share the details,here. However along with the ayurveda medicines please add the following: 1. Mahakayanaka Ghritham 1/2 teaspoon in the morning and 1/2 teaspoon in the evening with a cup of war water 0ne hour before breakfast and one hour before dinner. 2. Kachooradi churnam to be mixed with ksheerabala thailam and applied to bregma;let it stay for 40 minutes; then you can remove. 3. Foot massage(very gentle/just application) with ksheerabala thailam.
Take care, Kind regards.
Ok Uskae saath aap Sarivadi vati 1-0-1 Tab TAGARA 0-0-1 Ashwagandha churna 1/2 tsp with warm milk at night 2 - 2 tablet din mei teen baar ki wajayae din mei dho baar de do
Aap jo problem bata rahe hain wo medicine induced insomnia lag rahi hai.
Duralabha aur Jyotishmati dono nervous system ko stimulate karti hain. 66 saal ki age me 2–2 tablet din me 3 baar (total 12 tablets/day) bahut zyada dose ho jaati hai. Isi wajah se unhe bilkul neend nahi aa rahi.
1. Abhi turant Jyotishmati band kar dein
2. Duralabha bhi filhaal band kar dein (kam se kam 5–7 din)
Agar 1–2 raat me neend wapas aa jaati hai to confirm ho jaayega ki problem medicines se thi.
Ab Menier’s ke liye aap jo safe hai jaise
Saraswatarishta 10 ml + 10 ml pani, raat ko khane ke baad Brahmi vati -1 tablet raat ko Ashwagandha tablet 250 mg raat ko khane ke baad, 8 baje Sarivadi vati 1 tablet din mei do baar
Ye combination chakkar, anxiet Ear mei sound aana aur sleepchaaro ko support karta hai aur neend bhi sudhaarta hai.
Kuch zaroori baatein: Raat me chai/coffee bilkul band Mobile/TV sone se 1 ghanta pehle band Raat ko halka khana
Jyotishmati zyada tar buzurg patients me neend uda deti hai, isliye bina doctor supervision ke avoid karni chahiye.
Jyotishmati is a strong brain stimulant. Giving it 3 times a day (especially at night) is keeping his brain awake. It is too high a dose for his age (66).
Stop Night Dose: Do not give Jyotishmati after 4 PM. Reduce Dosage: Change from 6 tablets/day to just 1 tablet Morning + 1 tablet Afternoon. Duralabha: Continue, but limit to twice daily.
Remedies for Sleep 1 Add a pinch of Jaiphal (Nutmeg) powder to a cup of warm Buffalo Milk at bedtime. 2 Massage scalp with Brahmi Tailam or Ksheerabala Tailam nightly to cool the brain. 3 Rub Ghee on his soles for 5 minutes before sleep.
For Meniere’s Put 2 drops of warm Bilwadi Tailam in both ears daily. This treats the inner ear balance safely without causing insomnia.
Regards Dr Gursimran Jeet Singh MD Panchakarma
Start with Sarivadi ghanvati 1-0-1 after food with water Shilajit satva 1 drop in a cup of milk Ashwagandha churan 0-0-1tsp at bedtime with warm milk Brahmi vati 1-0-1 after food with water Light massage on head with Brahmi oil Do Nasya with Brahmi grith 2 drops in both nostril once daily Put 2drops of Bilwadi oil in both ear. Do pranayam lom -vilom kapalbhatti bhastrika bhamri 5-10mins daily twice Follow your mouth with air, close. Nose and mouth , slowly push this air towards ear both sides , Do this 2-3 times daily.
Meniere’s rog mein neend ki samasya vastav me pareshaani ka karan ho sakti hai, aur aapka chinta sacchi hai. Aapke pita ko jyotishmati aur duralabha ki ghan tablet do do baar teen samay dena se unki neend par asar pad raha ho sakta hai. Shayad inko lene se unka agni prabhavit ho raha hai ya unka dosha imbalance ho rahan hain jo samanya neend me vyavdhan dalta hai.
Sab se pehle, in davaaiyon ke prabhav ko observe karna zaroori hai. Agar yeh problem tej ho rahi hai, to aapko apne vaidy ya ayurvedic doctor se salah lekar in davaaiyon ki maatra ya seema par vichar karna chahiye. Yadi koi bhi alopaathik dawa li ja rahi hai, to kisi bhi tara ka drug interaction ka dhyaan dena avashyak hai.
Neend ko sudharne ke liye kuch aajmaaye hue ayurvedic nuske hain jo aap laagu kar sakte hain. Pehli cheez hai ek garam tel malish, sarson ya til tel se, raat ko sone se pehle, jo man ko shant karne aur deh mai vata dosha ko thanda karne mai madad karta hai.
Doosara, ek cup dhoodh me jaiphal aur ashvgandha ka churna mila kar peene se bhi achi neend aa sakti hai. Jaiphal ko vishesh roop se sone se pehle baithar maana jata hai.
Khaane mai maamuli aur halka anna lein jo ki pacha sakhein. Krodh aur tanav se door rahein, aur din bhar mai kuch tarkari jaisa ki kaddu oswa etc. shamlit karein jo man aur sharir ko cool karte hain.
Ant mein, din me halki karyashilta jese ki walk ya yog aadi ko prashikshit kiya jaye taaki sharir dimaag sukhad rahe. Agar dikkat sthir rahe to turant apne doctor se parmarsh lein.
