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What to do for frequent urination and incontinence after TURP surgery in my 75-year-old father with a resistant infection?
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What to do for frequent urination and incontinence after TURP surgery in my 75-year-old father with a resistant infection? - #55199

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My father is 75 years old. He underwent TURP surgery for enlarged prostate. About 2 weeks after surgery, he started having frequent urination and incontinence. Tests confirmed an infection (klebsiella pneumoniae bacteria) which is resistant to most antibiotics. The USG was normal (mild bladder wall thickening, and diverticulum). He has been taking NEERI syrup (15ml twice), Chandraprabha Vati (2-2) and Gokshuradi Guggul (1-1). But it has been 2.5 weeks and he has not had much relief. He has taken all antibiotics, and just 3 weekly doses of fosfomycin are remaining. Should he just wait it out? Advise.

How long has he been experiencing frequent urination?:

- More than 4 weeks

What is the frequency of urination during the day?:

- More than 8 times

Has he experienced any pain or burning during urination?:

- Mild discomfort

Is there any blood in the urine?:

- No

How is his overall energy level?:

- Low energy

Has he had any fever or chills since the surgery?:

- No fever

How is his appetite and dietary intake?:

- Poor appetite

What other treatments or remedies has he tried for this condition?:

- Herbal remedies
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Hello, Managing a post-TURP Klebsiella infection requires a multi-pronged approach, especially when dealing with antibiotic resistance and underlying bladder changes like diverticulum and wall thickening. ​ ​In Ayurveda, this condition is viewed as Bastiroga (bladder disorder) involving Vata-Pitta vitiation and Mutrakricchra (difficulty/infection in urination). The presence of a diverticulum and wall thickening indicates Vata and Kapha involvement, leading to urinary stasis and poor muscle tone, which explains the frequency and incontinence despite initial treatment. ​ Prescription : 1. ​Varanadi Kwatham: This is a potent anti-inflammatory and “shoshana” (drying/scraping) formulation. It helps manage bladder wall thickening and addresses the chronic nature of the infection. ​Dose: 15ml mixed with 60ml lukewarm water, twice daily on an empty stomach. 2. ​Gokshuradi guggulu: ​Dose: 2 - 2 tablet morning evening after meal. Take crushed tablet or by chewing with teeth. 3. ​Chandraprabha Vati (Special/Kerala Quality): Continue this as it is a master remedy for the urinary system, but ensure it is a high-potency version to strengthen the bladder sphincter. ​Dose: 2 tablets twice daily after food. ​ ​Waiting it out is not advisable when dealing with a resistant Klebsiella strain and symptoms of incontinence. ​ Since the USG shows a diverticulum and thickening, the bladder is likely struggling to empty completely (urinary stasis), which feeds the infection. Consult his urologist about Bladder Training or gentle pelvic floor exercises to help with the incontinence. ​ Ensure he avoids spicy foods, caffeine, and acidic juices, which can further irritate the bladder lining during a resistant infection. ​Complete the Fosfomycin: This is a crucial “rescue” antibiotic for resistant urinary infections. Ensure he completes the three weekly doses exactly as prescribed by the specialist. ​ If the incontinence persists after the infection is cleared (confirmed by a repeat culture), ask the urologist for a Urodynamic Study to see if the TURP site or bladder muscle function needs further adjustment.

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After TURP surgery, irritation of the bladder and urinary passage can continue for a few weeks, especially in elderly patients. In your father’s case, the resistant Klebsiella pneumoniae infection is likely delaying recovery, so improvement may take longer. Since there is no fever, blood in urine, or severe pain, this is somewhat reassuring, but persistent frequency and incontinence still need close monitoring. From an Ayurveda perspective, this condition can be understood as aggravation of Vata and irritation/inflammation of the Mutravaha Srotas (urinary system) after surgery and infection. The medicines he is taking — Chandraprabha Vati, Gokshuradi Guggul, and NEERI — are supportive, but recovery in elderly patients is usually gradual. Along with the remaining fosfomycin doses, supportive bladder healing and strength-building measures are important. Ayurvedic supportive advice: Continue prescribed antibiotics completely; do not stop midway. Keep hydration adequate but avoid excessive water at one time. Give warm water instead of cold water. Avoid tea, coffee, spicy food, sour food, packaged juices, and fried items as they can irritate the bladder. Prefer light diet: moong dal, rice, lauki, tori, coconut water (if potassium is normal), barley water, and pomegranate. For weakness and bladder irritation, gentle urinary soothing herbs like Varun, Gokshura, and Punarnava are commonly useful Sitz bath with lukewarm water for 10–15 minutes once daily may help reduce irritation. Bladder training (passing urine at fixed intervals) and pelvic floor exercises can gradually help with incontinence. If symptoms continue beyond completion of antibiotics, urine culture should be repeated because resistant infections sometimes persist despite partial symptom relief. Please seek urgent medical review if any of these occur: Fever or chills Confusion or excessive weakness Blood in urine Severe lower abdominal pain Inability to pass urine Increasing creatinine or kidney issues Overall, this does not appear to be an immediate emergency, but because of his age and resistant infection, recovery may take several weeks rather than days. Combination management with the treating urologist plus gentle Ayurvedic urinary support is the safest approach.

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After TURP, it’s common to have: -frequent urination -urgency -temporary incontinence -------But this usually improves steadily over a few weeks. However, in your father’s case: -symptoms started 2 weeks post-op -a Klebsiella infection was confirmed -symptoms have persisted >4 weeks total -he has low energy + poor appetite -------That combination strongly suggests the infection (or its consequences) is driving the symptoms, not just normal post-surgical recovery. ----- do tests repeat urine culture & sensitivity (to confirm current resistance pattern) checking post-void residual urine (is he emptying fully?) ----Prescription: 1) Syp Neeri 15 ml twice daily after food with water 2) Chandraprabha Vati 2 tablets twice daily after food 3) Gokshuradi Guggulu 1 tablet twice daily after food 4) Punarnava Mandur 1 tablet twice daily after food -----Pathya (Diet Advice): Light, warm, easily digestible diet Barley water / moong dal / rice gruel Adequate oral fluids Avoid spicy, sour, fermented foods ----Advice: Continue urologist advised antibiotics as per culture sensitivity Regular follow-up required If fever, worsening weakness, or urinary retention → immediate review ----- have these medicines for 15 days then review ----- if possible have the oral tab with gokshuradi kwath

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In Ayurveda, this condition involves a disturbance of Apana Vata (the energy governing downward flow and excretion) and Mutravaha Srotas (the urinary channels), often accompanied by Pittaja inflammation due to infection •Gokshuradi Guggulu: 2 bd after food with normal water A classical herbo-mineral formulation that acts as a natural diuretic and antimicrobial. It helps soothe the urinary mucosa and clear toxins Chandraprabha Vati: 2 bd after food with normal water Often considered a “sarvaroga hara” (curer of all diseases) for the urinary tract. It helps reduce inflammation and strengthens the bladder muscles •Ushnodaka (Warm Water): Paradoxically, drinking adequate warm water helps “flush” the system. Avoid very cold water, which can aggravate Vata and cause bladder spasms. •​Avoid “Vidahi” Foods: Stay away from spicy, salty, and sour foods (like pickles and chilies) which irritate the bladder lining. •Pelvic Floor Support (Ashwini Mudra): While Kegel exercises are the modern equivalent, the gentle practice of Ashwini Mudra (rhythmic contraction of the anal sphincter) can help regain control over the pelvic region. Note: Ensure he does this gently and only if there is no acute post-surgical pain

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After TURP surgery, urinary frequency and temporary incontinence can persist for some weeks due to bladder irritation and healing. However, resistant Klebsiella infection can delay recovery and continue causing symptoms. Since only 3 doses of fosfomycin are remaining, complete the antibiotic course exactly as advised by the treating doctor. Improvement may take some more time after infection control. Keep hydration adequate but avoid excess fluids at night. Avoid tea, coffee, and very spicy foods. Bladder training and pelvic floor exercises can help gradually improve control. Your current Ayurvedic medicines are supportive and can be continued for now. Continue NEERI syrup 15 ml twice daily Continue Chandraprabha vati 2-2 after food Continue Gokshuradi Guggulu 1-1 after food Varunadi kwath – 15 ml with equal water twice daily can also be added If symptoms worsen, fever develops, or urine retention occurs, immediate urologist review is needed. Otherwise, some gradual improvement over the next few weeks is expected after infection settles. Regards, Dr Raghuveer (Ayurvedacharya)

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After TURP and resistant Klebsiella pneumoniae infection, frequency and leakage may take few weeks to improve. Complete remaining fosfomycin and repeat urine culture. Take Chandraprabha Vati 2 tabs twice daily after food Gokshuradi Guggulu 1 tab twice daily after food Varunadi Kashayam 15 ml with warm water twice daily before food Barley water daily Avoid tea, coffee, spicy food. If fever, burning, blood urine, or worsening leakage occurs, consult urologist immediately.

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