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What to do for Autoimmune condition Sjogren - #26413

Mrs Shah

49 years old female having dry eyes, dry mouth, bodyache weakness since 2 years Sjogren not yet detected in any reports but symptoms associated all of Sjogren Treatment going on but no relief Kindly guide

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hello Mrs. shah, Your symptoms dry eyes, dry mouth, body aches, and fatigue strongly resemble Sjögren’s Syndrome, even if it’s not yet confirmed in reports. It is common for autoimmune diseases like Sjögren’s to take time to show positive in blood tests, especially in early stages. Still, your body is clearly indicating systemic dryness (rukshata) and vata-pitta aggravation along with probable immune dysregulation.

Explanation (in simple terms):

Your body’s internal moisture like tears and saliva is drying up. This leads to friction in the joints (causing pain), weakness, and a tired feeling. It’s like your internal “oil” has reduced. The dryness is due to imbalance of Vata dosha (which causes drying and degeneration) and Pitta (which increases heat and inflammation). Even if lab reports are not fully conclusive, Ayurveda treats based on symptoms and imbalance, not just diagnosis labels.

Investigations to be Confirmed/Repeated if not done recently:

ANA (Antinuclear antibody) Anti-Ro/SSA & Anti-La/SSB antibodies ESR, CRP (for inflammation) Schirmer’s Test (eye moisture) Vitamin D, B12 levels Thyroid profile (TSH, T3, T4 – autoimmune links)

Treatment Plan

Ama Pachana (Detox & Agni Deepana – 5 days)

Shunthi Churna (Dry ginger powder) – ¼ tsp with warm water before meals – twice a day Trikatu Churna – ¼ tsp after meals – once a day Warm water sip every hour + light diet (moong soup, rice gruel, pomegranate)

Internal Medications

Rasnadi Kashayam – 15 ml with 45 ml warm water – twice daily before food Ksheerabala 101 (Capsule or Avarti) – 1 cap twice a day after food Ashwagandha Arishtam – 15 ml with equal water after meals – twice daily Gandharvahastadi Kashayam – 15 ml + 45 ml warm water at bedtime – supports gut and joint function

External Treatments (if accessible): Abhyanga (oil massage) with Balaashwagandhadi Taila – daily or alternate days Swedana (mild steam) to body after oil massage Anjana for dry eyes with Saptamrita Lauha powder mixed in honey – under doctor’s supervision

Strictly avoid cold, dry, and raw foods Add ghee in diet – 1 tsp daily Avoid fasting, spicy, or overly salty food Gentle yoga and breathing – 10 mins daily (focus on balance and calm)

Do your symptoms worsen in the evening or at night? Have you had recurrent mouth ulcers or dental issues along with dryness?

This condition can be managed effectively through Ayurvedic support by nourishing the tissues, reducing dryness, and calming immune overactivity. Results may not be instant, but gradual consistency can bring significant improvement.

Warm regards, Dr. Karthika

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Dr. Khushboo
I am a dedicated Ayurvedic practitioner with a diverse foundation in both modern and traditional systems of medicine. My journey began with six months of hands-on experience in allopathic medicine at District Hospital Sitapur, where I was exposed to acute and chronic care in a high-volume clinical setting. This experience strengthened my diagnostic skills and deepened my understanding of patient care in an allopathic framework. Complementing this, I have also completed six months of clinical training in Ayurveda and Panchakarma, focusing on natural detoxification and rejuvenation therapies. During this time, I gained practical experience in classical Ayurvedic treatments, including Abhyanga, Basti, Shirodhara, and other Panchakarma modalities. I strongly believe in a patient-centric approach that blends the wisdom of Ayurveda with the clinical precision of modern medicine for optimal outcomes. Additionally, I hold certification in Garbha Sanskar, a specialized Ayurvedic discipline aimed at promoting holistic wellness during pregnancy. I am passionate about supporting maternal health and fetal development through time-tested Ayurvedic practices, dietary guidance, and lifestyle recommendations. My approach to healthcare emphasizes balance, preventive care, and customized wellness plans tailored to each individual’s constitution and health goals. I aim to create a nurturing space where patients feel heard, supported, and empowered in their healing journey. Whether treating seasonal imbalances, supporting women’s health, or guiding patients through Panchakarma therapies, I am committed to delivering care that is rooted in tradition and guided by compassion.
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In Ayurveda, Sjogren’s Syndrome, characterized by dryness and inflammation, is understood through the lens of Vata and Pitta dosha imbalances, leading to disruptions in the body’s moisture-producing glands (rasa, rakta dhatu) and channels (strotas). Ayurvedic management focuses on restoring balance through dietary and lifestyle modifications, along with therapies like Basti and Shaman Aushadhis.  Ayurvedic Perspective on Sjogren’s Syndrome: Dosha Imbalance: Sjogren’s is primarily seen as a Vata and Pitta imbalance, with Vata’s dryness (Rukshata) and Pitta’s inflammation (Sthanvaigunya) being prominent.  Strotas Involvement: The syndrome affects various bodily channels (strotas), including Rasavaha, Raktavaha, and Udakavaha, impacting the flow of rasa (essence of digestion) and rakta (blood).  Aama Formation: The condition is also linked to Aama (toxins) formation due to impaired digestion and metabolism.  Shushkaakshipaka Shushkaakshipaka is a Vata-pittaja, Sarvagata netra vikara that matches the clinical picture of dry eyes disease and can be called as a disease caused mainly due to increased Rukshata in eyes. This
increased Rukshata due to Dhula, dhuma, Raja sevan and other Samanya hetus of Netra rogas leads to Prakopa of Vata dosha alone previously. However, as the Hetu sevan continues even Pitta dosha gets involved and results into a deeper Dosha-dushti involving all 5 Mandalas where in there is Rukshata

Treatment: Samhitas mention oral as well as local
treatment modalities for Shushkaakshipaka. Oral
treatment includes Ghrutpana as first line of treatment. Snehana, Swedana, Snigdha Nasya,
Snehana Anjana, Tarpan, Putapaka are some of local remedies that will decrease the Rukshata of ocular surface.Administration of Ksheer Basti in treatment of Shushkaakshipaka is also adviced

1) jeevantyadi ghrita -2tsf after food 2 times a day with warm water for 15 day

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The symptoms which you have mentioned lik dry eyes dry mouth body ache weakness are classical symptoms of shogren s syndrome even if blood reports are normal ACC to ayurveda it’s a progressive vata pitta imbalance You can start on Giloyghan vati- 1 tab twice daily after food with lukewarm water Yasthimadhu churna- 1/2 tsp with warm water at morning Ashwagandha churna- Shatavari churna- 1/2 tsp each with warm milk at night

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Since Sjogren syndrome is auto immune, you will get relief from your problem, but need to continue -Include antioxidant like Omega -3 fatty acids and vitamin E in diet. - if you are non vegetarian then include fish which is rich in fish oil like sardines, Tuna - Food rich in oil like Avacado, walnut, peanuts, sesame almonds are good to be included in your diet Doing Basti in a nearby ayurvedic centre will benefit you Abhyangam - oil massage on body . will also help you. Oil pulling with sesame oil Treatment you can take Guduchiadi kashayam 30ml. With water before lunch Panchtiktagrit 10ml. With warm milk before breakfast Kishore guggul 1-0-1 after food with water

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HELLO MRS SHAH,

WHAT IS SJOGREN’S SYNDROME? -It is an autoimmune condition- meaning your body’s own immune system starts attacking its own healthy glands and tissues, especially the glands that produce moisture (saliva and tears).This leads to -dryness of mouth -dryness of eyes -sometimes fry skin, joint pain, fatigue, body ache

It usually affects middle-aged women, often around or after menopause. It can occur alone or along with other autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis or lupus

Ayurveda sees this condition as a combination of -vata pitta imbalance -shosha= meaning drying up or wasting of tissues -rasa dhatu kshaya= the first essential fluid of the body is weakened -Ojas kshaya= the body’s vitality and immunity are reduced -affected tissues: Eyes(Netra), mouth (much), joints (sandhi), and snayu (ligaments/tendons) It is chronic and systemic issue, needing a long term holistic approach, not just symptoms control

GOALS OF TREATMENT -restore natural moisture in eyes, mouth, joints -strengthen immunity without overstimulation -nourish body tissues (especially rasa, mamsa, and Ojas) -reduce dryness, fatigue, body pain -prevent further complications -balance vata and Pitta doshas gently and consistently

INTERNAL MEDICATIONS

1) GUDUCHI GHANVATI= 2 tabs twice daily after meals =booosts immunity, reduces inflammation gently

2) ASHWAGANDHA CAPSULES= 1 cap at night with warm milk 500mg =rebuilds strengthen, reduces fatigue, vata pacifying

3) SHATAVARI KALPA= 1 tsp with warm milk in evening =deep tissue nourishment, especially for dryness

4) SAPTAMRIT LAUH= 2 tabs after meals =improves vision, reduces eye dryness, antioxidants

5) CHANDRAPRABHA VATI= 2 tabs twice daily after meals =for urinary tract dryness, glandular balance

6) SIMHANADA GUGGULU= 2 tabs twice daily after meals = for joint stiffness, body aches

DURATION= continue for 2-3 months. Results are slow but sustainable

EXTERNAL THERAPIES

1) OIL MASSAGE= USE BALA TAILA- full body, 20 mins before bath 4 times/week =improves circulation, joint stiffness, nourishes dry skin

2) NASYA= 2 drops of Anu taila in each nostrils daily in morning after steam =clears dryness of nose, eyes, head, improves tear secretions

3) NETRA TARPANA= eye rejuvination with triphala ghrita =relieves dry eyes, strengthens optic nerves

4) KARNA PURANA= 3 drops of bala Taila in each ear once a week =supports nervous system and vata balance

HOME REMEDIES

1) ALOE VERA JUICE= 15ml daily on empty stomach- moistens tissues

2) LICORICE TEA= soothes dry throat, balances immunity

3) SOAKED ALMONDS= 5-6 daily in morning- nourishes tissues

4) GHEE- 1 tsp daily in food or milk- excellent natural moisturizer

5) WARM SESAME OIL- oil pulling in morning (2-3 min)- helps with dry mouth

6) COCONUT WATER + DRY DATES (OVERNIGHT SOAKED)= increases moisture, energy

7) STEAM INHALATION with tulsi water- relieves nasal and eye dryness

YOGA AND PRANAYAM- DAILY PRACTICE (15-30 MIN) -Bhujangasana= improves circulation, tones glands -Marjariasana= relieves spinal stiffness -Balasana= relieves fatigue, calms nerves -Setu bandhasana= strengthens pelvic and digestive organs -Viparita karani= gentle inversion, calming, lymph flow

PRANAYAM -Anulom Vilom= balances vata and pitta -Bhramari= calms nervous system -Sheetali= moistens mucosa, cools pitta

DIET -warm, soft, moist foods -ghee, rice, green gram , milk, fresh seasonal fruits -cooked vegetables -almonds, dates, figs, raisins soaked -turmeric,cumin, coriander, fennel- gentle spices -herbal teas- tulsi, yashtimadhu, ginger

AVOID -dry, cold, stale foods -excess tea, coffee -sour, spicy, fried food -processed snacks, bakery, sugar -excess wheat, maida, non veg if digestion is weak

-Autoimmune diseases like Sjogren’s are chronic and require patience and consistency -Ayurveda does not focus on just “killing symptoms” , but gently nurtures and rebuilds your immunity, moisture, and energy overtime -You may not feel dramatic changes in 1 week, but over 4-8 weeks, dryness, fatigue, and stiffness will reduce steadily

DO FOLLOW CONSISTENTLY

HOPE THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL

THANK YOU

DR. MAITRI ACHARYA

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Given the symptoms you’ve described, focusing on balancing your doshas and supporting the body’s natural hydration and immune functions can be very helpful. Ayurveda may complement your existing treatment. Sjogren-like symptoms such as dry mouth and eyes can hint at a Vata-Pitta imbalance, possibly driven by drying and heating qualities.

First, consider your diet. Favoring a Vata-Pitta pacifying diet which is rich in grounding, nourishing, and oozing properties may provide some comfort. Include warm, cooked foods like soups and stews that soothe and hydrate. Ghee is fantastic for the dryness, you might want to incorporate a teaspoon daily into your meals if your digestion is alright. Avoid overly spicy, salty, and dry foods, as they can aggravate Vata-Pitta doshas.

Hydration is key here, so include plenty of fluids like herbal teas, especially with cooling herbs like fennel or coriander. Cumin, coriander, and fennel tea can help ease digestion and support hydration while balancing Pitta. Sip lukewarm water throughout the day in small quantities - too much at once might dampen Agni, your digestive fire.

For dry eyes, consider Triphala eye wash. Soak a teaspoon of Triphala powder in a cup of water overnight, strain it in the morning and use the liquid to gently rinse your eyes.

Regarding dry mouth, chew on cloves or a few fennel seeds post meals, which stimulates saliva production and aids with digestion. These could provide some natural relief.

Yoga and gentle pranayama - focus on calm, grounding practices without excessive heat - can stabilize Vata and ease muscular discomfort and weakness. Regularly practicing gentle yoga postures like Balasana (Child’s Pose) can be very grounding.

Consult with your healthcare provider before implementing these, especially since current medical treatments are ongoing. They will help ensure that these natural remedies won’t interfere with your treatment plan, keeping your safety as the priority.

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Looking at your symptoms, it seems relevant to consider your dosha imbalance, primarily vata, which may be causing the dryness and weakness. In Siddha-Ayurvedic practice, addressing vata is crucial in such conditions. Here are some approaches you can explore to find relief:

Begin by incorporating warming, grounding foods into your diet. Favor cooked, moist foods that are naturally sweet, sour, and salty, and include ingredients like ghee and oils that can help lubricate the tissues. Avoid raw, cold, and dry items. This dietary shift can bolster both agni and the dhatus, strengthening the body’s reserves against the dryness.

Nasya (nasal oil application) could be beneficial in managing dry eyes and dry mouth. Consider using medicated oils like Anu taila, applying 1-2 drops in each nostril every morning on an empty stomach. This practice helps in nourishing ‘ojas’ and balancing vata in the body’s upper channels, aiding in moisture retention.

Perform gentle abhyanga (oil massage) with warm sesame oil or Mahanarayan oil, followed by a warm bath. Doing this daily can help reduce body aches and weakness by pacifying vata and nourishing the bodily tissues.

For herbal support, explore ashwagandha and shatavari, which can rejuvenate the body, enhancing strength and moisture. Dosage should be guided by an Ayurvedic practitioner to ensure safe and effective use based on your constitution.

Lastly, consider pranayama, specifically anulom-vilom, and meditation to help calm the mind and reduce stress, which can exacerbate vata imbalance. Pay attention to adequate rest and maintain a balanced schedule to avoid overexertion.

If your symptoms persist or worsen, consulting a healthcare professional is essential for further exploration and treatment, especially since proper diagnosis and monitoring may necessitate more specialized care.

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ChatGPT said: I am Dr. P. Prasad, and I’ve been in this field for 20+ years now, working kinda across the board—General Medicine, Neurology, Dermatology, Cardiology—you name it. Didn’t start out thinking I’d end up spanning that wide, but over time, each area sort of pulled me in deeper. And honestly, I like that mix. It lets me look at a patient not just through one lens but a whole system-wide view... makes more sense when treating something that won’t fit neatly in one category. I’ve handled everything from day-to-day stuff like hypertension, diabetes, or skin infections to more serious neuro and cardiac problems. Some cases are quick—diagnose, treat, done. Others take time, repeated check-ins, figuring out what’s really going on beneath those usual symptoms. And that’s where the detail matters. I’m pretty big on thorough diagnosis and patient education—because half the problem is ppl just not knowing what’s happening inside their own body. What’s changed for me over years isn’t just knowledge, it’s how much I lean on listening. If you miss what someone didn’t say, you might also miss their actual illness. And idk, after seeing it play out so many times, I do believe combining updated medical practice with basic empathy really shifts outcomes. Doesn’t have to be complicated... it just has to be consistent. I keep up with research too—new drugs, diagnostics, cross-specialty updates etc., not because it’s trendy, but cuz it’s necessary. Patients come in better read now than ever. You can’t afford to fall behind. The end goal’s the same tho—help them heal right, not just fast. Ethical practice, evidence-based, and sometimes just being there to explain what’s going on. That’s what I stick to.
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Dr. Shaniba P
I am an Ayurvedic doctor, someone who’s pretty much built her clinical journey around natural healing, balance and yeah—just trying to help ppl feel a bit more whole again. I work mostly with conditions that kinda stay with people... like joint pain that won’t go away, periods all over the place, kids falling sick again n again, or just the kind of stress that messes up digestion n sleep n everything in between. A lot of my practice circles around arthritis, lower back pain, PCOD-ish symptoms, antenatal care, immunity problems in kids, and those quiet mental health imbalances ppl often don't talk much about. My approach isn’t just pulling herbs off a shelf and calling it a day. I spend time with classical diagnosis—checking Prakriti, figuring out doshas, seeing how much of this is physical and how much is coming from daily routine or emotional burnout. And treatments? Usually a mix of traditional Ayurvedic meds, Panchakarma (only if needed!!), changing food habits, tweaking the daily rhythm, and honestly... just slowing down sometimes. I’m also really into helping ppl understand themselves better—like once someone gets how their body is wired, things make more sense. I talk to patients about what actually suits their dosha, what throws them off balance, and how they can stop chasing quick fixes that don’t stick. Education's a big part of it. And yes, I’ve had patients walk in for constant cold and walk out realizing it’s more about weak agni n poor gut routines than just low immunity. Every case’s diff. Some are simple. Some not. But whether it’s a young woman trying to fix her cycles without hormones or a 6-year-old catching colds every week, I try building plans that last—not just short term relief stuff. Healing takes time and needs trust from both sides. End of the day, I try to keep it rooted—classical where it matters but flexible enough to blend with the world we're livin in rn. That balance is tricky, but worth it.
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Dr. Suchin M
I am someone who’s honestly just really drawn to how deep Ayurveda goes—like really deep—not just treating what’s showing on the surface but getting into what’s actually causing it underneath. I really believe that even those complicated lifestyle diseases, stuff like diabetes or BP or obesity that people think they’ll just have to live with forever, can totally be managed with Ayurvedic principles. Not magically or overnight, but through proper diagnosis, diet tweaks, daily habits, and herbs that actually work if you use them right. That’s the part I focus on—making Ayurveda work practically, not just in theory. After finishing my BAMS, I’ve worked with chronic conditions for over a year now in clinical setups. Mostly patients dealing with long-term stuff that doesn’t go away with one pill—usually the kind of disorders rooted in stress, wrong food choices or too much sitting. I’ve seen that if you really listen first, like actually listen—hear their story, feel where they’re coming from—half the work’s already done. Then when you assess their Prakriti, figure out where the doshas are out of balance, and connect that with their history (plus any modern test reports they might bring), it gives you this full picture that’s so valuable. My treatment plans aren't one-size-fits-all. Sometimes it’s about bringing agni back into balance. Sometimes just clearing aam helps. Most people are shocked that things like bloating or even periods issues can shift just by aligning food and herbs with their constitution. And if the case is acute or there’s a red flag, I have no problem referring for emergency allopathic care. Integrative care makes sense—Ayurveda doesn’t have to be isolated from modern medicine. My aim? It's not just to fix a symptom. I want people to feel at ease in their own body again. To build habits they don’t need to break later. To know their own rhythm, not just follow some generic health trend. That’s what Ayurvedic healing means to me... not perfect, but real.
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