Blood pressure too high doesn’t go down or normal - #26636
Been a bit of stress this n life n also diabetic n liverinflammation so BO IS QUITE HIGH 150/ 83… taking herbal Bo medication called BP Care… taking injections almunaib forarthritis n metphormin for diabetes
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Dear Rahim, Thank you for sharing your concern. I can understand your concern regarding moderately elevated blood pressure (150/83) along with chronic conditions like diabetes, liver inflammation, and arthritis. But dont worry we are here to help you out 😊
Your current use of BP Care herbal medicine, Almunaib injections for arthritis, and Metformin for diabetes is supportive, but Ayurvedic management can further help you to balance your doshas
✅AYURVEDIC PLAN OF TREATMENT ✅INTERNAL MEDICATION 1 Arjuna Capsule 1-0-1 with warm water after food ( supports heart health and lowers BP naturally) 2 Punarnavadi kashaya 15ml-0-15ml +45 ml. Water ( helps reduce water retention and supports liver detox.) 3 Guduchi tablets 1-0-1 after food (supports immunity, liver function, and balances doshas.) 4 Dashmoolarishta 30ml-0-30ml after meals (good for arthritis and Vata balance.) ✅EXTERNAL TREATMENT Mahanarayana taila - warm oil apply on painful joints and do massage for 10 mins
✅DIET MODIFICATION
✅INCLUDE- light, warm, easily digestible foods avoid oily, heavy, and spicy foods. Drink plenty of warm water and herbal teas like ginger or cinnamon tea.
❌AVOID- Avoid excessive salt and processed sugar to support BP and diabetes control.
✅ Stress Management Practice pranayama (deep breathing) and meditation daily to reduce stress and help control BP and arthritis symptoms.
HOPE YOU FOUND THIS HELPFUL!!
Wish you a Good health Warm. Regards Dr Snehal Vidhate
Start with prasham tablet 0-0-2 at bedtime with water Rasgandha tablet 2-0-0 after breakfast with water Divya hridayamrit vati -DS extra strong 0-0-1 after dinner with water. Do pranayam lom -vilom bhastrika bhamri 5-10mins daily twice. Lessen intake of salt in your diet
It’s good that you’re seeking a holistic approach to your health, especially with high blood pressure, diabetes, and liver inflammation, coupled with stress. Ayurveda offers valuable perspectives on managing these interconnected conditions.
Understanding Your Current Situation from an Ayurvedic Perspective:
High Blood Pressure (150/83): In Ayurveda, high blood pressure (often called Rakta Gata Vata or Urdhwaga Rakta Pitta) is seen as an imbalance of Vata and Pitta doshas. Stress significantly aggravates Vata, leading to constricted channels and increased pressure.
Diabetes (Madhumeha): Diabetes is primarily a Kapha disorder, but Vata can also play a role, especially when stress is present. The body’s inability to properly metabolize sugar is often linked to impaired Agni (digestive fire) and accumulation of Ama (toxins).
Liver Inflammation (Yakrit Shotha/Yakrit Vikara): The liver is the seat of Pitta dosha. Inflammation indicates an excess of Pitta, which can be exacerbated by stress, improper diet, and accumulated toxins.
Stress: Stress is a major contributing factor to all your conditions. It directly impacts Vata, leading to anxiety, poor sleep, and aggravated nervous system, which in turn affects blood pressure, blood sugar regulation, and liver function.
Medications:
BP Care (Herbal BP Medication): It’s important to know the specific ingredients in “BP Care” to assess its Ayurvedic compatibility and potential interactions. Many Ayurvedic herbs like Ashwagandha, Arjuna, Brahmi, Tulsi, Triphala, and Punarnava are known to support blood pressure.
Almunaib (Adalimumab) for Arthritis: Adalimumab is a conventional biologic medication that works by blocking TNF (Tumor Necrosis Factor) to reduce inflammation. While it effectively manages arthritis, it’s a powerful drug that can suppress the immune system. Ayurveda would focus on addressing the root cause of inflammation (often an aggravated Vata or Pitta with Ama) and supporting overall joint health and immunity.
Metformin for Diabetes: Metformin is a standard allopathic medication that helps lower blood sugar by reducing glucose production in the liver and improving insulin sensitivity. It’s crucial to continue this as prescribed.
Ayurveda Opinion
Ayurveda emphasizes a personalized approach. While general recommendations can be given, consulting a qualified Ayurvedic practitioner is highly recommended for a tailored treatment plan, especially with multiple complex conditions and ongoing allopathic medications.
Here’s a general Ayurvedic perspective on managing your conditions:
1. Stress Management (Key Focus):
Lifestyle:
Routine (Dinacharya): Establish a consistent daily routine, including fixed times for waking, eating, and sleeping. This helps pacify Vata.
Yoga and Pranayama: Gentle yoga postures (like Balasana, Setu Bandhasana, Shavasana) and breathing exercises (Anulom Vilom, Bhramari Pranayama) are incredibly effective in calming the nervous system and reducing stress.
Meditation/Mindfulness: Even short periods of daily meditation can significantly reduce stress and promote mental clarity.
Adequate Sleep: Aim for 7-8 hours of quality sleep, ideally going to bed before 10 PM. This is crucial for liver repair and overall well-being.
Nature Connection: Spend time in nature to ground yourself and reduce mental agitation.
Ashwagandha: A powerful adaptogen to reduce stress, anxiety, and support overall resilience.
Brahmi: Calms the mind, improves cognitive function, and helps manage stress-induced headaches.
Jatamansi: Known for its calming and sleep-promoting properties.
Tulsi (Holy Basil): An adaptogen that helps the body cope with stress.
2. Blood Pressure Management:
Diet:
Reduce Sodium: Limit processed foods, pickles, and excessive salt.
Increase Potassium-Rich Foods: Include bananas, spinach, sweet potatoes.
Avoid Pungent, Salty, and Sour Foods: These can aggravate Pitta and Vata.
Focus on Whole Grains, Fresh Fruits, and Vegetables: Especially those with bitter and astringent tastes.
Hydration: Drink warm water throughout the day.
Herbs (Check for interactions with “BP Care”):
Arjuna: Traditionally used to strengthen the heart and regulate blood pressure.
Garlic: Known for its blood-pressure-lowering effects.
Cinnamon: May help improve insulin sensitivity and support blood pressure.
Amla: Rich in Vitamin C and antioxidants, good for heart health.
3. Diabetes Management:
Diet:
Avoid Refined Sugars and Processed Foods: These directly contribute to blood sugar imbalances.
Reduce Heavy, Oily, and Cold Foods: These can increase Kapha.
Emphasize Bitter and Astringent Tastes: Include bitter gourd, neem, fenugreek.
Fibers: Incorporate plenty of fiber-rich foods to help regulate blood sugar absorption.
Spice Use: Use spices like turmeric, cinnamon, and cumin, which are beneficial for metabolism.
Herbs (in conjunction with Metformin, under professional guidance):
Gudmar (Gymnema Sylvestre): Known as the “sugar destroyer,” it helps reduce sugar cravings and improves insulin action.
Neem: Bitter and detoxifying, good for blood purification.
Fenugreek (Methi): Helps slow down carbohydrate absorption.
Turmeric (Curcumin): Anti-inflammatory and improves insulin sensitivity.
4. Liver Inflammation:
Diet (Pitta-pacifying):
Avoid Spicy, Oily, and Fermented Foods: These can aggravate Pitta.
Favor Bitter and Sweet Tastes: Include leafy greens, fresh fruits, and cooling foods.
Limit Alcohol: If consumed, it should be strictly limited or avoided entirely.
Intermittent Fasting (if suitable and advised by a practitioner): Can give the liver a rest.
Herbs:
Guduchi (Giloy): A powerful rejuvenator that helps remove toxins and reduce inflammation.
Kutki and Bhumyamalaki: Specific herbs known for their liver-protective and regenerative properties.
Triphala: A gentle detoxifier that supports overall digestion and can indirectly benefit the liver.
Turmeric: Its anti-inflammatory properties are beneficial for liver health.
Important Considerations:
while managing high blood pressure, diabetes, liver inflammation, and stress simultaneously requires careful attention, Ayurveda offers a holistic framework that focuses on lifestyle, diet, and herbal support to bring balance back to your system. Always prioritize open communication with your healthcare providers to ensure safe and effective management of your health.
Don’t worry, Avoid excessive intake of salty food,cheese,fried food etc.
Start taking these medications, 1. Divya Mukta vati 2-0-2 empty stomach. 2.Prabhakar vati 0-0-1 At bed time.
Follow up after 2 month. You’ll definitely get relief 😊
For Stress Reduction (Direct BP Benefit) Since stress is spiking BP:
Brahmi tea or powder 1–2 g in the evening.
Nadi shodhana pranayama (alternate nostril breathing) — 5 min morning & evening.
10 min gentle walking after dinner — lowers both sugar and BP.
At your age 150/83 is quite normal Can you tell what all medication you are taking?? Meanwhile do regular walking at least 45 minutes daily Avoid high salt fried oily foods Drink plenty of fluids
DNT WOORY BLOOD PRESSURE UNDER CONTROLLED JUST 1 WEEK…TAKE
DIVYA MUKTA VATI=2-2 TAB BEFORE MEAL TWICE DAILY
DIVYA BP GHRIT TAB=1-1 TAB AFTER MEAL TWICE DAILY
DIVYA MEDHA VATI=2 TAB AT BED TIME …
AVOID SODIUM INTAKE/ SPICY/OILY /JUNK FOODS
DO ANULOMAVILOM=20 MIN DAILY
CONSUME -3/4 LITRES WATER PER DAY…
INVESTIGATION=KFT
You EAISLY CURED
HELLO ALIMUN RAHIM,
You have -high blood pressure (150/83) -diabetes -liver inflammation -arthritis -stress
From an Ayurvedic view -High bp is called Rakta gata vata (vata affecting blood circulation) or Rakta pitta (pitta aggravation in blood) depending on symptoms. -Diabetes is a kapha-vata disorder where metabolism slows and sugar remains in blood -Liver inflammation comes from excess pitta heat and sometimes Ama(toxins) from weak digestion -Arhritis is mainly vata aggravation in joints
In you, the root causes seem to be
1) PITTA IMBALANCE= causing heat, inflamamtion, irritability, liver issues
2)VATA IMBALANCE= from stress, irregular routine, leading to BP fluctuation and arthritis
3) KAPHA IMBALANCE= slowing metabolism, increasing blood sugar
Thes three doshas are interacting so treatment must calm all- especially pitta and vata
TREATMENT GOALS Ayurveda works on root cause, not just symptoms
The plan aims to 1)Reduce blood pressure by calming vata and pitta and improving blood vessel relaxtion
2) Control blood sugar by reducing kapha and improving digestion and metabolism
3) Heal liver and reduce inflamamtion
4) Support joints and reduce arthritis pain
5) Manage stress to prevent bp spikes
6) Remove ama (toxins) from body and blood
7) Prevent complications like heat strain kidney damage or vision problems
INTERNAL MEDICATIONS
1) ARJUNA CHURNA= 3 gm twice daily with warm water for 3 months morning and night =strengthen heart, regulate Bp
2) PUNARNAVA CHURNA= 2 gm twice daily after meal for 3 months =reduces swelling, improves kidney liver function
3) AMLA JUICE= 20 ml juice daily after meals =cooling, antioxidant, liver protection
4) TRIPHALA POWDER= 1 tsp at night with warm water =mild detox, antioxidants, liver protection
5) BHUMYAMALAKI CAPSULES= 1 cap twice daily after rmeals for 3 months =liver healing , pitta cooling
6) KUTKI CHURNA= 250 mg twice daily with honey after meals for 2months =potent liver detox and bile balance
7) SARPAGANDHA VATI= 2 tabs in morning =strog bp lowering medicine
8) CHANDRAPRABHA VATI= 1 tab twice daily after meals for 3 months=diabetes and urinary health support
FOOT MASSAGE with ghee at night= calms vata and improves sleep
LIFESTYLE CHANGES -maintain fixed sleep wake time (10pm-6am ideal) -avoid overthinking, late nights, excessive screen use -take short breaks during mental work -avoid extreme heat and direct sun exposure -practice mindful eating- no talking, phone, or rushing during meals
YOGA ASANA -tadasana= improves circulation -vrikshasana= improves balance and nerve function -Setu bandhasana= strengthens heart -Paschimottanasana= calms mind, reduces bp
PRANAYAM -nadi sodhana= 10 min daily -bhramari= 7 rounds, calming effect -sheetali= cooling breath, reduces pitta
MEDITATION= 15-20 min daily
DIET TO BE FOLLOWED
AVOID -excess salt, fired/oilly food -red meat -refined sugar, -alcohol, coffee -sour pickles, chili, vinegar
INCLUDE -whole grains= barley, oats, red rice -Light lentils- green gran, split moong dal -Vegetables= bottle gourd, ridge gourd, pumpkinn, ash gourd, spinach (lightly cooked) -Fruits= apple, guava, papaya, pomegranate -Spices= coriander, cumin, fennel , turmeric avoidd too much chilli
HYDRATION= warm water with cumin- coriander - fennel seeds
HOME REMEDIES
1) GARLIC= 2 raw cloves daily= bp and cholesterol control
2) LEMON WATER= empty stomach with pinch of cumin powder
3) CORIANDER SEED WATER= soak 1 tsp overnight, drink next morning
4) AMAL JUICE= 20 ml daily for bp and sugar control
5) PAPAYA= empty stomach for mild liver detox
INVESTIGATION NEEDED
-Bp monitoring= morning and evening for 2 weeks -pasting and postprandial blood sugar= monthly -HbA1c= every 3 months -LFT= every 3-6 months -KFT= every 6 months -Liid profile= every 6 months -Eye check up= yearly(diabetes and bp can affect retina)
High bp in your case is not just stress- it’s a combination of inflammation, metabolic imbalance, and nervous system overactivity Ayurveda will aim to cool pitta, calm vata , and clear Ama - which in turn -lowers Bp naturally -Improves blood sugar -protects liver -relieves arthritis pain -keeps the mind calm
But- this must go hand - in- hand with medical monitoring especially because you are already on other medicationd
Never stop allopathic Bp or diabetes medicines suddenly- we slowly integrate Ayuvedic care and then taper dose under guidance
DO FOLLOW
HOPE THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL
THANK YOU
DR. MAITRI ACHARYA
HELLO ALIMUN RAHIM
It sounds like your health has been juggling quite a few challenges lately — stress, diabetes, liver inflammation, high blood pressure, and arthritis. The blood pressure reading of 150/83 suggests your cardiovascular system is under extra strain, and with blood sugar and liver health also involved, your body is asking for a more balanced, integrated approach.
From an Ayurvedic perspective, this is a mix of Pitta-Kapha aggravation with Ama accumulation, affecting Rakta Dhatu (blood), Meda Dhatu (fat metabolism), and Yakrit (liver). Chronic stress also disturbs Vata, which worsens blood pressure fluctuations and joint discomfort. While you’re already on herbal BP Care, metformin, and arthritis injections, Ayurveda would start with clearing toxins, supporting liver health, and calming the nervous system, while keeping sugar and BP under control.
Treatment Plan
Ama Pachana & Agni Deepana (First week)
Goal: Clear toxic build-up, support liver function, and stabilise metabolism.
1.Triphala Churna – 1 tsp at bedtime with warm water (supports liver detox, regulates bowels). 2.Arogyavardhini Vati – 1 tablet twice daily after meals with warm water. 3.Punarnavarishta – 15 ml with equal water after meals, twice daily (reduces swelling, supports kidney-liver circulation).
Blood Pressure & Blood Sugar Support (From 2nd week onwards)
1.Sarpagandha Vati – 1 tablet at night (monitor BP regularly). 2.Nisha Amalaki Churna – ½ tsp twice daily before meals (supports blood sugar control and liver health).
Continue your BP Care formulation alongside, but monitor for any low readings.
Daily Practices
Diet
Avoid: Excess salt, fried foods, red meat, refined sugar, alcohol, and packaged snacks.
Include: Warm, freshly cooked meals with whole grains like barley, brown rice, or millet. *Favour bitter vegetables (bottle gourd, ridge gourd, bitter gourd), green leafy vegetables, and turmeric. *Use spices like cumin, coriander, fennel, and small amounts of black pepper.
Lifestyle *Gentle evening walks (15–20 min) to improve circulation and reduce stress. *Morning breathing practice: Anulom Vilom (alternate nostril breathing) 7–10 minutes. *Reduce screen time before bed and sleep by 10:30 pm.
Investigations
*Liver function test (LFT) every 3–4 months. *HbA1c every 3 months for diabetes monitoring. *Lipid profile (to check cholesterol status).
If you follow this staged approach, the aim is to detoxify the system, lighten the load on your liver, stabilise BP and sugar, and reduce inflammation. Over time, this should make your energy steadier, BP more stable, and joint discomfort easier to manage.
With Warm Regards, Dr.Sumi.S
Managing high blood pressure (hypertension) particularly when you’re dealing with stress, diabetes, and liver inflammation requires a comprehensive approach. Ayurveda can offer support but its also important to maintain regular consultations with your healthcare professionals due to your ongoing conditions.
Addressing stress, start by incorporating daily practices of mindfulness or meditation. Even 10 minutes a day can help reduce stress levels which is sometimes overlooked when managing hypertension. Also, practice Pranayama or deep breathing exercises, such as Nadi Shodhana (alternate nostril breathing), it’s particularly effective in calming the mind, helping control both stress and blood pressure.
Regarding your diet, focus on incorporating more fresh vegetables and fruits. Avoid processed food, excess salt, and sugar-laden items which can contribute to hypertension. Garlic has hypotensive properties, try adding it to your diet or consider a garlic supplement under supervision. Additionally, decoction made of herbs such as Arjuna, and Brahmi may support healthy blood pressure. Always discuss with your doctor before adding new herbal supplements, especially considering your medications.
Exercise gently daily, adapt it to your energy levels and capacity. Walking or gentle yoga can support cardiovascular health without overstraining your body, be mindful of not overexerting yourself.
Since your dealing with liver inflammation, incorporate turmeric and milk thistle, known for their liver-supportive properties. Use turmeric cautiously; it can interfere with some medications. Ensure hydration and aim for adequate rest; both can significantly impact your body’s ability to manage stress and liver function.
Given your diabetes, monitor your blood sugar alongside blood pressure; fluctuations can influence each other. Continue your prescribed medications as advised by your physician, and keep them updated on any changes or new symptoms. It’s crucial to balance administrative of all treatments to avoid complications.
When blood pressure remains elevated despite your diligent use of herbal remedies such as BP Care, it could point to several intertwined factors including stress, diabetes, liver inflammation, and current medications. First, understanding that each element contributes to your health condition is crucial. Herbal remedies can assist but might not be sufficient on their own if the root causes aren’t adequately managed.
In the Siddha-Ayurvedic approach, high blood pressure can arise from an imbalance in Pitta dosha, possibly aggravated by stress and liver inflammation. Specifically, addressing Pitta through a prescribed diet and lifestyle modifications would be beneficial. Reduce intake of spicy foods, excessive salt, and oily food, while integrating Pitta-pacifying vegetables like cucumber and zucchini. Emphasize cooling and calming practices, such as meditation or deep-breathing exercises daily to help reduce stress levels, as stress contributes directly to Pitta imbalance and thereby to hypertension.
With diabetes being a factor, it’s equally essential to maintain a consistent routine with your metformin and monitor blood sugar levels routinely. Incorporate mildly bitter herbs, such as karela (bitter gourd) juice, which could assist in regulating blood glucose levels but ensure it doesn’t interfere with your medications. Ensuring digestion is strong, known as maintaining Agni, is vital as well. Ginger tea can aid digestion without warming Pitta excessively; however observe how your body reacts.
Given that you’re also receiving injections for arthritis, these medications might influence your liver function and could interact with herbal and Ayurvedic treatments. It’s prudent to regularly consult with both your healthcare provider and an Ayurvedic practitioner to ensure a comprehensive approach that respects potential interactions or side effects.
If your blood pressure readings continue to stay high despite these adjustments, it’s crucial to seek a medical evaluation to avoid complications. Uncontrolled hypertension could pose dangers like heart disease or stroke. To safeguard your health, monitoring and adjusting your interventions under professional advice can guide your path to balance.
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