HELLO LAKHVEER, I understand you are experiencing discomfort due to gallbladder and CBD stones, along with indigestion and fatty liver. This issues can indeed be painful and confusing thank you for reaching out. with proper care and support, there a ways to improve your condition naturally and safely
your question - CAN CBD stone be removed by medicine instead of ERCP? -CBD stone> 6 mm is generally not manageable with oral medications -A stone of 16 mm in CBD is considered large, posing a risk of obstructive jaundice,colanjistis or pancreatitis -ERCP is the gold standard procedure to remove stones-it is minimally invasive and effective.
Ayurveda refers to gallbladder stones and biliary stones under pittashmari. ayurveda can support in -preventing formation of new stones -managing mild or non obstructive stones -improving liver and gallbladder function however, a large CBD stone of 16 mm is a medical emergency if not managed timely
*A 16 mm CBD stone should not be treated only with medications ERCP is recommended and often <link removed>laying it can lead to severe complications so don’t wait go for ERCP as early as possible.
SUPPORTIVE LINE OF TREARMENT- POST-ERCP AND FOR FATTY LIVER MANAGEMENT POST-ERCP CARE IS NECESSARY TO AVOID REOCCURANCE 1)AROGYAVARDHINI VATI- 1 TAB TWICE DAILY AFTER MEALS WITH WARM WATER- DETOX AND LIVER SUPPORT 2)CIRRHONIL SYRUP-30 ML WITH WARM WATER AFTER MEALS TWICE DAILY 3)ROHITAKARISTA- 30 ML WITH WARM WATER AFTER MEALS TWICE DAILY 4)TRIPHALA GUGGULU- 2 TAB TWICE DAIY AFTER MEALS 5)YAKRIT PLIHANTAK CHURNA-1 TSP TWICE DAILY WITH WARM WATER
DIET- WARM,FRESHLY COOKED FOOD AVOID-OILY FRIED NON VEG CHEESE WHITE SUGAR AND REFINED FLOUR INCLUDE-LAUKI,PAPAYA,GREEN MOONG,RICE KANJI TURMERIC WATER USE OF COW GHEE-1TSP/DAY BEBEFICIAL
DAILLY BRISK WALKING FOR 30 MIN POST MEALS VAJRASANA AFTER MEALS AVOID SLEEP IMMEDIATELY AFTER EATING HYDRATION- 3L WATER DAILY LUKEWARM WATER INFUSED WITH JEERA AND SAUNF
AFTER REMOVAL OF STONE START SUPPORTIVE AYURVEDIC TREATMENT TO MANAGE FATTY LIVER AND TO PREVENT REOCCURANCE
GO FOR ERCP
HOPE THIS WILL HELP YOU CLEAR YOUR DOUBTS THANK YOU
Hello Lakhveer Singh
" NO NEED TO WORRY "
" I WILL HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND & MANAGE GALL STONES "
• YOUR PROBLEMS :-
18 mm Galls Stone ( Cholelithiasis /Pittashmari)
* I can understand ur going through severe discomfort & excruciating Often pains Discomfort * U have Indigestion and Fatty Liver as well
GALL STONES FACTS U MUST KNOW
* Any Stone size below 6 mm can be easily manageable with Oral medicines and can be dissolved But Above 6 mm it becomes Difficult as size grows bigger
* U must know Ur Stone Size is Bigger 16 mm than Common Bile Ducts diameter 6 mm so itc can’t expelled
* Gall stones can be Either Expelled like kidney stones
* If Gall Stones is Creating any problems complications like Pain Discomfort Indigestion Jaundice Bile Duct Obstruction Liver complications then it’s needs urgent ERCP
* If Gall Stones is Present but not creating any Complications and u don’t have any discomfort then U can try with Some Ayurvedic medicines
* Even though without complications and ur discomfort even it remains there also No Probelm
* I have seen lots of Asymptomatic Gall stones Patient since long years don’t have any problems instead of Presence of Gall Stones
* Consider ERCP minimum invasive effective solution as Last Option
MY ADVICE
* 16 mm Stone is Too Big to Dissolve By Any Oral medicines line of Treatment and Can’t Advcie u to wait as it may Create Complications if u wait Longer
* Honesty Better To Consider ERCP And then to Follow Ayurvedic Treatment for Recovery
AYURVEDIC APPROACH TO GALL STONES ( PITTASHMARI)
How Ayurveda Helps in Gall Stones
* Can Dissolve Stones Below 6 mm * It Prevents Further formation of new stones * It’s helps elevate pain discomfort Digestion Metabolism * It prevents Gall stones complications
• AYURVEDIC TREATMENT POST ERCP
* Aloe Vera Juice ( Baidyanth Herbals ) 30 ml -0- 30 ml on empty stomach with 1 Glass of Normal Water * Tab. Aarogyavardhini Ras ( Dhootapapeshwar Pharma) 1 -0-1 Before * Cap.Amlycure DS ( Aimil Pharma) 1-0-1 After Food * Syrup.Rohitakarista ( Baidyanth Pharma) 15 ml -0- 15 ml Night After Food * Avipattikar Churna ( Dabur Pharma) 1 Tsf Night After Food Preferably with 1 Glass of Luke Warm Water
• GALL STONE INSTRUCTIONS TO FOLLOW
1.Drink Plenty of Water Fluids Juices Approximately 3 Liters Per Day 2.Avoid Hard Water ( Borewell water ).Drink Alkaline Water ideally ph should be 7 3.Drink Plenty of Citrus Fruits Juices like Lemon Orange etc 4.Avoid Extra High Salty processed sweets packed canned diet 5.Avoid Excessive Tea Coffee etc 6.Limit Animal Too High Proteins 7.Maintain Gut Health 8.Avoid Too High Calcium Diet 9.Avoid Addictions if Any 10.Avoid Triggers Outside Fast Juck Foods
HOME MADE DELICIOUS PACHAK DECOCTION / TEA TO IMPROVE GALL BLADDER LIVER FUNCTION FATTY LIVER & IMPROVE DIGESTION METABOLISM
Hing 3 Pinches+ Jeera 1 Tsf+ Ajawain 6 Spoons + Sounff 2 Tsf+ Sendha Namak 2 Pinches+ Pure Turmeric 1 Pinch+ Methi Seeds 1 Tsf+ Tulsi Leaves 10 No + Pudina Leaves 10 in No + Dry Ginger 1 Pinch+ Jaggery 1 Tsf+ 1 Glass of Water — Boil on Mil Flame till it Becomes ½ Glass — Drink Boil Cooled Tea like twice a Day After Food
• DAILY DIET PLAN ( DIET AS MEDICINE TO RECOVER FAST )
* NORMAL DIET ( Less Oily, Less Spicy Sour Salty, Well Cooked )
* EARLY MORNING DRINK- Non Citrus Fruits Juices/Aloe Vera Juice 30 ml with 1 Glass of Water / Coconut Water
* BREAKFAST - Rava Ragi Bajra Oats Items/ Fruits Salads/ Home made Soups
* LUNCH - Ghee Applied Roti ( Non Gluten) Jwar/ Bajara/ Ragi + Leafy Vegetable like Palak Methi+ Green Salad Rayta + Any Sabji+ Fresh Butter Milk with Cream + Rice + Dal
* EVENING DRINK - Pachak Kadha as suggested Above Above / Fruit Juice
* DINNER - Half of Lunch Quantity/ Fruits Salads/ Light Diet
DO’S - Highly Nutritious Alkaline Leaft Vegitables Citrus Fruits salads sprouts Fibers etc Plenty of Water Approximately 3 Liters Per Day Fluids Juices Lemon Orange Coconut Watermelon Banana Stem Horse Gram Soup
DON’TS - Avoided Spicy Salty Sour Masala Fried Fast Foods Junck Foods Bakery items Avoid.Spinach Tea Cauliflower Cabbage TomatoesMild Dairy Product Chicken Mutton etc Sedentary lifestyles stress Excessive Tea Coffee inatke
REGARDS
Dr Arun Desai
God Bless You 😊🙏
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Hi Lakhveer It is not possible to remove gall bladder stones by any medicine As far as fatty liver and abdominal pain You can have medicine for symptomatic relief but permanent relief will be only by surgery For the time being you can take 1. Avipattikar Churana 1tsf bd before meal with water 2. Tab. Livon 2tab bd after meals For two weeks
If you don’t have any symptoms then you can try ayurvedic medicine But as you have mentioned it’s 16 mm and mostly it takes some time to see the result I mean to get dissolved,I would suggest you to go for ERCP , which is non invasive
It’s quite a big stone, if it’s not troubling you, you can take: Gokshura ghanvati 2-0-0 after food with water Ashmarihar vati 1-1-1 after food with water Tab liv-52 1-0-1 after food with water Avipattikar tablet 1-0-1 after food with water Avoid fasting and long gaps between food Lessen intake of fatty, fried, oily foods Try this for 2 months and follow up
Like you mentioned the stone is in the CBD and is quiet big you can go for medication only if you donot experience symptoms of JAUNDICE or OBSTRUCTED JAUNDICE for which you need to keep a watch on your LFT. Else ERCP is a safe option.
Do’s: Daily exercise is must. Healthy and home cooked food only. Buttermilk in lunch. Dinner should be done early and should be light. 100 steps after every meal. Only 2 meals a day. No snacking. Prefer millets over wheat roti.
Dont’s: Potato. Too much oil, ghee and dairy product. Fried, oily, spicy food. Packed, processed and ready to eat items. Late night meals Alcohol Non veg Snacks and chips.
Tab. Liv 52 DS 1 tab twice a day before food. Tab. Arogyavardhini Vati 2 tabs twic a day before food. Tab. Gandhak Rasayan 1 tab twice a day before food. Syp. Bhunimbadi Kadha 2 tsp twice a day before food with warm water.
Tab. Shankh Vati 2 tabs twice a day after food suck and eat like hajmola.
Tab. Gandharva Haritaki 3 tabs at bed time with hot water.
When it comes to a 16 mm stone in the common bile duct (CBD), it’s important to understand the gravity of the situation. In Ayurveda, while we emphasize the importance of balancing doshas and encouraging holistic health, such a large stone can pose significant risks, including obstruction and potential complications like jaundice or pancreatitis. Conventional medical procedures like ERCP (Endoscopic Retrograde Cholangiopancreatography) are often necessary and effective. The urgency and potential complications make ERCP the recommended course here. Please follow your doctor’s advice for this procedure.
That said, there are Ayurvedic practices to support your recovery post-ERCP and to improve liver health. Your fatty liver can benefit from dietary adjustments and lifestyle changes. You might consider incorporating more bitter and astringent tastes in your meals—foods like fresh greens, turmeric, and ginger can be beneficial. Try to avoid heavy, oily, and fried foods which can burden the liver further. Sip warm water throughout the day to aid digestion.
Focus on enhancing your Agni, your digestive fire. Ensuring your food is warm and well-cooked can help. Seasonal fruits like pomegranate, and veggies such as gourds, can support liver functions. Ghee in moderation is also suggested as it can help balance bile production.
Lifestyle-wise, gentle yoga and Pranayama, like Nadi Shodhana, can help alleviate stress and balance the doshas, especially if done early morning. Avoid lying down immediately after meals to prevent aggravating Pitta.
Implementing these changes may enhance your overall well-being and support liver health in the long run. Still, do not substitute these practices for immediate medical attention for the existing stone. Prioritize removing the CBD obstruction as directed by your healthcare provider.
