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Inquiry about Vatnashik Vati and its effects on chronic body pain, joint pain, and gas issues - #36019

Dr.Sachin Pathak

Dose vatnashik Vati cause piles operation have cronic body pain joint pain and gas issues. What dose should I take ?

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This is a classical ayurvedic formulation used to pacify aggravated vata Dosha It helps in relieving vata related pain reduces stiffness cracking sounds Eases nervous and musculoskeletal pain After piles surgery it should be used with caution because it is mild ushna can irritate anal region and cause dryness

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Instead of vatanashik vati start on Yograj guggulu 1-0-1 Peedantaka vati 1-0-1 Dashamoola aristha 15-0-15 ml with warm water Gashara churna 1/2-0-1/2 tsp with warm water Stay hydrated Triphala churna 1 tsp with warm water at night if constipation Sitz bath two times daily

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HELLO DR. SACHIN,

Your symptoms- chronic joint pain, body stiffness, gas and bloating- mainly indicate an imbalance of the vata dosha

WHAT IS VATA DOSHA -vata is the principle of movement in the body- it controls circulation, nerve impulses, joint motion, and digestion of gases - When balanced -> you feel light, flexible, energetic, creative, and digestion is smooth -when aggravated due to age, stress, cold, irregular food/sleep, dryness- you feel pain, dryness, cracking joints, bloating, restlessness, and disturbed sleep

WHY THIS HAPPENS IN YOUR CASE -Age factor = after 50 years, vata naturally increases in everyone -history is piles surgery= post surgery dryness or poor gut tone can disturb vata in the colon which is vata’s main seat - irregular meals, excessive gas, or constipation= these further aggravate vata in the large intestine, leading to trapped air, disconfort, and pain spreading to other parts of the body - cold or sedentrylifestyle- reduces lubrication in joints, worsening stiffness and pain

TREATMENT GOALS -pacify vata aggravated vata dosha - improve digestion -nourish joints and nerves - support colon and prevent constipation -re-establish lifestyle balance

INTERNAL MEDICATIONS

A) MAIN MEDICINE= VATNASHIK VATI -PURPOSE= pacifies vata, relieves body pain, joint stiffness, and gas - DOSE= 1 tab twice daily after meals with lukewarm water -DURATION= 6 weeks to 3 months -WHY= it combines herbs and minerals that calm vata and improve nerve and joint function -CAUTION= because youve had piles surgery, start with small dose (1/2 tab twice daily for 3 days-> then 1 tab twice ). stop if dryness, burning, or anal irritation occur

B) SUPPORTING MEDICATIONS

1) HINGVASTAKA CHURNA= 1/2 tsp after meals with ghee or warm water = improves digestion, relieves gas

2) RASNADI GUGGULU= 1 tab twice daily after meals = reduces joint stiffness, nourishes joints

3) TRIPHALA CHURNA= 1 tsp with warm water at bedtime = mild laxatives, prevents constipation, supports colon

4) DASHMOOLARISHTA= 2 tbsp twice daily after meals with equal water = anti inflammatroy, improves energy

DURATION= 2-3 months

EXTERNAL TREATMENT

1) WARM OIL MASSAGE= daily with warm Mahanarayan taila gentle circular motion from head to toe = nourishes skin, muscles, joints, nerves, pacifies vata

2) MILD STEAM= after massage take warm shower, or mild steam on joints for 5-10 min

3) LOCAL FOMENTATION= apple hot towel compress over affected areas after oiling = for painful joints

DIET -warm, cooked, and slightly oily foods- soups, stews, khichdi, porridge - ghee and sesame oil= lubricates tissues, and calm vata - moong dal, brown rice, cooked vegetables- carrots, pumpkin, bottle gourd, spinach - sweet, sour, and salty taste- naturaly pacify vata - warm milk with a pinch of turmeric or nutmeg at bedtime

AVOID -dry, cold, raw foods- salads, crackers -excess pulses like rajma, chana, or peas- increase gas - cold drinks, ice cream, frizzy beverages -too much tea/coffee - spicy, fried foods- irritates gut, piles area

DAILY ROUTINE TIPS -eat meals at regular times, avoid skipping meals -avoid overeating or late night meals -drink warm water through the day -do not suppress natural urges- gas, stool, urine

DAILY HABITS -sleep early- by 10 pm= irregular sleep worsens vata -gentle exercise= walking, stretching, light yoga, 20-30 min -avoid excessive exertion, cold exposure, or sitting for long hours

YOGA ASANAS -pawanmuktasana= reduces gas -vajrasana after meals= for digestion - tadasana, trikonasana, bhujangasana, setu bandhasana= strengthen spine and joints - shavasana= relaxation

PRANAYAM -Anulom vilom= balances vata and calms nerves -bhramari= reduces anxiety, promotes sleep -deep abdominal breathing= improves gut motility and reduces bloating

HOME REMEDIES -GAS/BLOATING= mix 1/4 tsp roasted cumin+ 1/4 tsp ajwain + pinch of hing in warm water after meals

-JOINT STIFFNESS= apply warm sesame oil to joints before bath; gentle movemnt after 15 min

-CONSTIPATION= soak 5 raisinsor 2 dates overnight; eat in morning or take warm milk with 1 tsp ghee at bedtime

-FATIGUE/ PAIN= drink warm water with 1 tsp honey + 1 tsp lemon + pinch of dry ginger in morning

-POST MEAL HEAVINESS= take 1/2 tsp trikatu churna with honey after heavy meals

DO FOLLOW

HOPE THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL

THANK YOU

DR. MAITRI ACHARYA

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If you are operated for piles , it’s best to avoid till piles recover, as these are heat producing ingredients, will increase your piles problem. Till then you can use mahanarayan oil on body pain.

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Vatnashak Vati is an Ayurvedic formulation used to balance aggravated Vata dosha, which is often responsible for joint pain, gas, bloating, and body aches. It typically contains herbs like Hing, Ajwain, Trikatu, and Pippali, known for their digestive and anti-inflammatory properties.

🧾 Safety & Side Effects - Does it cause piles? There is no evidence that Vatnashak Vati causes piles. However, if taken in excess or without proper anupana (vehicle), it may aggravate dryness or heat in the body, which could worsen pre-existing piles. - Post-piles surgery caution: If you’ve had a piles operation, avoid spicy or heating herbs unless prescribed by a physician. - Gas and joint pain: Vatnashak Vati may help relieve gas and Vata-related joint pain, but chronic symptoms may need deeper detox and nourishment.

Dosage- 2 tab twice daily with warm water after meals

Complementary Remedies - For joint pain: Try Rasnadi Guggulu or Yograj Guggulu alongside Vatnashak Vati. - For gas and bloating: Hingvastak Churna or Mahashankh Vati may be more effective.

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Vatnashik Vati is an Ayurvedic formulation primarily used to balance Vata dosha, which can be responsible for issues like gas, bloating, body pain, and joint aches. However, regarding its connection to piles, it’s essential to address the root cause first, as these symptoms may stem from a Vata imbalance or poor digestion.

Now, since you asked about dose: Vatnashik Vati’s dosage can generally vary depending on the individual’s specific health concerns, age, and overall constitution. Typically, the recommended dose might be around 1-2 tablets twice daily after meals with lukewarm water. But, it’s crucial to involve a qualified Ayurvedic practitioner to determine the exact dosage and duration as per your unique Prakriti (constitution) and Vikriti (imbalance).

Regarding piles, it would be wise to consult with a healthcare provider to ensure any discomfort isn’t being exacerbated by the medication. Chronic body pain and joint pain alongside digestive issues might indicate an underlying imbalance that needs tailored management—simply taking Vatnashik Vati may not be enough.

In addition to medication, focus on soothing your digestive system to address gas and related problems. Consider incorporating freshly cooked, easily digestible meals and avoid cold, raw foods, and heavy to digest meats. Warm herbal teas like ginger or fennel can aid digestion. Triphala powder at night with warm water might also help regulate bowel movements, reducing pressure on anal region which could aggravate piles.

Exercise moderation in physical activities to avoid increasing pain, and practice gentle exercises like yoga, specifically targeting joints and to rebalance Vata. Keep stress at bay as it aggravates Vata; consider meditation or breathing exercises.

Remember, this is general advice and consulting an Ayurvedic doctor for a personalized approach, considering your entire medical history and current condition, would be most beneficial. If any symptoms are acute or rapidly worsening, seek immediate medical attention.

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Vatnashik Vati is primarily formulated to balance vata dosha, which may be contributing to your chronic body pain, joint pain, and gas issues. However, if you’ve recently undergone a piles operation, you need to be cautious. Vatnashik Vati could potentially be helpful for your symptoms, but its application post-surgery should be closely monitored. It’s essential to consult your healthcare provider before taking any Ayurvedic or herbal supplement in such situations.

For addressing the vata imbalance, incorporating practices such as daily warm oil massage (abhyanga) using sesame oil could be beneficial. This can help soothe the nervous system and alleviate joint discomfort. Ensure that your diet is warm, moist, and easy to digest, favoring cooked vegetables, whole grains, and warm fluids to support digestive fire.

If you’re considering taking Vatnashik Vati, generally, the dosage can vary from one to two tablets twice a day after meals, but this should be personalized to your specific condition, especially considering your recent surgery. Keep in mind, this is not a substitute for any ongoing post-surgical care.

For gas and bloating, sipping on warm water infused with ginger after meals can further aid digestion without interfering with your recovery process.

A personalized approach from both your Ayurvedic practitioner and your medical team would be ideal to ensure safety and maximum benefit. If you notice any adverse reactions, discontinue use immediately and seek medical attention.

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I am Dr. Anjali Sehrawat. Graduated BAMS from National College of Ayurveda & Hospital, Barwala (Hisar) in 2023—and right now I'm doing my residency, learning a lot everyday under senior clinicians who’ve been in the field way longer than me. It’s kind of intense but also really grounding. Like, it makes you pause before assuming anything about a patient. During my UG and clinical rotations, I got good hands-on exposure... not just in diagnosing through Ayurvedic nidan but also understanding where and when Allopathic tools (like lab reports or acute interventions) help fill the gap. I really believe that if you *actually* want to heal someone, you gotta see the whole picture—Ayurveda gives you that depth, but you also need to know when modern input is useful, right? I’m more interested in chronic & lifestyle disorders—stuff like metabolic imbalances, stress-linked issues, digestive problems that linger and slowly pull energy down. I don’t rush into giving churnas or kashayams just bcz the texts say so... I try to see what fits the patient’s prakriti, daily habits, emotional pattern etc. It’s not textbook-perfect every time, but that’s where the real skill grows I guess. I do a lot of thinking abt cause vs symptom—sometimes it's not the problem you see that actually needs solving first. What I care about most is making sure the treatment is safe, ethical, practical, and honest. No overpromising, no pushing meds that don’t fit. And I’m always reading or discussing sth—old Samhitas or recent journals, depends what the case demands. My goal really is to build a practice where people feel seen & understood, not just “managed.” That's where healing actually begins, right?
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Just read the detailed response. So grateful for the clear advice and concern shown for my age & situation. Feeling more informed now!
Just read the detailed response. So grateful for the clear advice and concern shown for my age & situation. Feeling more informed now!
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