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Is Ayurvedic treatment possible for a rotator cuff tear without surgery? - #46312
Rotator cuff tear ka ayurved me ilaaj sambhav h?? Bina surgery k upchar btaye Surgery ni krwana chahte h Kya ye possible h
How long have you been experiencing shoulder pain?:
- More than 6 monthsWhat is the severity of your pain?:
- Moderate, affects daily activitiesHave you tried any treatments for this condition before?:
- Yes, medicationDoctor-recommended remedies for this condition
Doctors' responses
Namaste Definitely, I can see that you are worrying. Having pain in a shoulder for more than six months and having a hard time with daily activities is really a distressing situation, even more, if you are not willing to have a surgical operation.
What comforts is the fact that not all the torn rotator cuffs are in need of surgery.
YOUR QUESTION – DIRECT ANSWER
Of course, Ayurveda has a non-surgical treatment method, but the tear type and the extent shall dictate the decision.
ROTATOR CUFF TEAR – AYURVEDA PERSPECTIVE
According to Ayurveda, this is a vata disorder located in the shoulder joint and also snayu-mamsa gata vata (tendons and muscles) and abhighataja vata vyadhi (injury-related).
WHAT IS IT?
In the pathogenesis of the disease, the aggravated vata element is dry and causes pain and inhibition of movement.
Snayu (tendons) and mamsa (muscle) are weakened by atrophy. Inflammation accompanied by stiffness.
WHEN CAN ONE BE TREATED WITHOUT SURGERY?
✅ By Ayurveda one can achieve very good therapeutic effects if: – It is a case of a partial tear – The tear is degenerative (age-related) – Movement of the shoulder is not completely blocked – Pain is moderate (as it is in your case)
❌ Surgery should be considered if – There is a full-thickness tear of the rotator cuff – Raising the arm is impossible – Severe muscle atrophy is present
👉 In case of partial tear / tendinosis on the MRI, a great improvement without surgery can be attained.
AYURVEDIC TREATMENT GOALS
– Relief of pain and inflammation – Vata pacification – Healing and strengthening of the tendon – Restoring the mobility of the shoulder
AYURVEDIC TREATMENT PLAN (NON-SURGICAL)
INTERNAL MEDICATION
1Yograj Guggulu 1.-0-1after food → For joint pain, stiffness
2. Dashmoolaristha 20 ml-0-20ml before food → Inflammation & Vata control
3. Shallaki Capsule 1-0-1 after food → Reduces tendon inflammation
4. Ashwagandha Capsule 1 capsule at night → Muscle & tendon strength
Duration: 6–8 weeks, then review
EXTERNAL THERAPY (MOST IMPORTANT)
Abhyanga Oil: Mahanarayana Taila / Ksheerabala Taila Shoulder, neck and arm gentle massage
Daily 15 min Nadi Swed / Hot Fomentation After oil massage Very helpful in pain & stiffness
Basti Therapy (If possible) Matra Basti / Ksheera Basti The best for chronic Vata disorders Quick healing
EXERCISE & MOVEMENT (AFTER PAIN RELIEF)
Do not do heavy exercises during the pain period If pain is less: Pendulum exercise Wall climbing (slow) Physiotherapy along with Ayurvedic treatment is the best way to get results
DIET & LIFESTYLE
Consume Ghee (1 tsp everyday) –Eat warm, soft food –Use turmeric + ginger –Milk (if digestion is good) Protect yourself from cold
Avoid AC directly on your shoulder Do not perform heavy lifting Avoid sudden and jerky movements
EXPECTED RESULT
2–3 weeks: Pain & stiffness ease 6–8 weeks: Movement gets better Regular follow-up can keep you away from surgery
Warm Regards Dr Snehal Vidhate
Please consult your nearest Panchkarma center.
1.Taila Abhyanga (Oil massage) - Mahanarayan taila ya Dhanwantharam taila se gentle massage daily. - Lukewarm oil use karein, massage ke baad hot fomentation (steam / warm towel).
2.Panchakarma therapies (under supervision) - Snehan + Swedan (oil massage + steam) for pain relief. - Janu basti / Greeva basti / Kati basti adapted for shoulder — medicated oil pooling therapy. - Basti (medicated enema) for chronic Vata disorders.
3.Internal Medicines - Yograj Guggulu – 1–2 tablets twice daily with warm water. - Dashamoola kwath – 30 ml decoction twice daily with 30 ml warm water. - Ashwagandha churna –1 tsp at bedtime with warm milk. - Shallaki (Boswellia serrata) – 500 mg capsule twice daily with warm water.
Diet & Lifestyle - Warm, nourishing foods: khichdi, dal, ghee, sesame seeds. - Avoid cold, dry, and processed foods. - Gentle physiotherapy / yoga stretches (under guidance). - Adequate rest, avoid lifting heavy weights.
Take maha yoga Raja Guggulu with Gold 1tab,lakshadi Guggulu 1tab bd, Gandha tail 1tab bd, ksheerabala tail with abhyanga, asthibala 1tab bd,u ll get results
Dr RC BAMS MS
Haan, rotator cuff tear ka ilaaj Ayurveda mein sambhav hai, lekin ek baat bilkul clear samajhni zaroori hai. Har tear ek jaisa nahi hota. Agar tear partial hai ya purana hokar jam gaya hai, to bina surgery kaafi hadd tak sudhaar possible hota hai. Agar tear complete aur muscle bilkul alag ho chuki hai, to Ayurveda se pain control aur function improve hota hai, par poori tarah jodna mushkil hota hai.
Aapka pain 6 mahine se zyada hai aur daily kaam prabhavit ho rahe hain, iska matlab condition chronic ho chuki hai, jo Ayurveda ke liye suitable case hai.
Ayurveda ke hisaab se ye problem Vata vyadhi, khas kar Mamsa Snayu Asthi gata Vata ki category mein aati hai. Vata ke badhne se snayu (tendon)sookh jaati hai, flexibility khatam hoti hai aur tear badhta hai.
Sabse pehle pain aur inflammation kam karna hai , phir Vata shaman, phir local healing, aur saath mein rehabilitation movements karna jaroori hai
Yograj Guggulu 1 tablet subah shaam, bhojan ke baad, garam paani ke saath Lena hai Ashwagandha churna 1/2 chammach raat ko garam doodh ke saath Dashmool kwath 20 ml subah shaam, garam paani mila kar
Mahanarayan taila ya Ksheerbala taila se kandhe par roz 10 15 minute halka malish Malish ke baad garam sek bahut zaroori hai
Exercise Pain kam hone ke baad hi gentle pendulum exercise aur physiotherapy movements shuru karein Zabardasti movement ya weight lifting bilkul na karein
Diet aur lifestyle Thandi cheezein, dry food, zyada fasting avoid karein Garam, teliyukt aur nourishing food lein Sone ke waqt kandhe ke neeche support rakhein
Surgery ke bina upchar possible hai, lekin discipline aur patience bahut zaroori hai. Agar aap chahein to MRI report ke basis par main aur precise guidance de sakti hoon.
you can definety try this medicine take mahayograj gugulu 2 bd take chandraprabhavati 2 bd do abhyan with ksheera bala tail and steam take asthisrukhala ghee 5 ml at empty stomch
Some regime you should follow
✔️Do’s:✔️ Eat freshly cooked food. Chew an inch of fresh ginger half an before meal. Eat only fruit vegetables. Limit dairy products (stop if possible) Include ragi millet, black eyed pea, rajgira, soya, tofu as vegetarian source of protein and egg as non vegetarian source
🧘♀️Yoga🧘♀️ Virabhadrasana Trikonasana Vrukshasan Prasavkonasan Bhujangasan Balasan Shavanasan
🧘♀️Pranayam🧘♀️ Anulom Vilom Bhastrika Kapalbhati
❌Dont’s:❌ Sitting directly under a fan or right in front of the A.C Limit shoulder movement Oily, spicy, processed food. Packed food products. Sour and fermented items. Bakery items. Fried food products. Potatoes.
💊Medication💊
Tab. Ampachak Vati. 2 tabs twice a day before food. Tab. Asthiposhak Vati 2 tabs twice a day before food. Cap. Palsinuron 2 caps twice a day before food. Cap. Arnopen 2 caps twice a day before food Syp. Dashmoolarishta 3 tsp twice a day before food with warm water.
Tab. Shankhavati 2 tabs twice a day after food. Suck and eat like hajmola
Sunthi Siddh Castor Oil. 3 tsp at bed time with a cup of hot water.
Ksheerbala Tailam. Apply softly in circular motion on the shoulder and hot fomentation for 15 mins after that.
To get excellent results you can go for basti and shirpaka pottali swedan for 21 days at a panchakarma center near you.
Possible hai, lekin complete tear mein full recovery limited hoti hai) Moderate pain + >6 months and partial tear ya tendinopathy ka chance zyada hai – isme Ayurveda + physiotherapy se 70–80 % patients bina surgery ke normal life jee sakte hain.
Medicines 1 Maharasnadi Kwath – 20 ml + 60 ml warm water morning empty stomach 2 Tab Shallaki – 1 tablet morning + 1 tablet night after food 3 Laxadi Guggulu – 2 tablets twice daily after food 4 Dashmoolarishta – 20 ml + 40 ml water after lunch & dinner 5 Ashwagandha Lehyam – 10 gm night with warm milk
Oil (must use daily) Warm Mahamasha Taila + Bala Taila (1:1) at shoulder + arm massage 15 min nightly followed by hot water bag 10 min
Daily Physiotherapy (bina iske nahi hoga) Pendulum exercises 20×3 Wall climbing (finger walk) 10×3 Isometric shoulder rotation with towel 20×3
Avoid overhead activities & heavy lifting
Diet Give daily: moong khichdi + ghee, pomegranate, 4 almonds + 2 dates Avoid completely: curd, cold drinks, heavy non-veg, late dinner
Full tear mein pain manage & function improve hota hai, lekin complete repair surgery se hi hota hai Surgery bina possible hai agar Pain manageable ho, Daily activities kar paate ho (slowly), MRI mein partial tear ho Agar 90 din baad bhi severe restriction → surgery consider karna pad sakta hai.
Regards Dr Gursimran Jeet Singh MD Panchakarma
HAAN, ROTATOR CUFF TEAR KA AYURVED MEIN ILAJ SAMBHAV HAI, KHAASKAR JAB TEAR PARTIAL HO YA PURANA HO AUR POORI TARAH SE MUSCLE ALAG NA HUI HO. KUCH CASES MEIN SURGERY KE BINA DARD KAM KIYA JA SAKTA HAI, MOVEMENT SUDHARI JA SAKTI HAI AUR MUSCLE TENDON HEALING KO SUPPORT KIYA JA SAKTA HAI. KYUNKI AAPKO 6 MAHINE SE ZYADA SAMAY SE DARD HAI AUR DAILY ACTIVITIES PAR ASAR PAD RAHA HAI, ISSE HUM VATA PRADHAN MAMS SNAYU VIKAAR MAANTE HAIN, JISMEIN SOOKHAPAN, STIFFNESS AUR KAMZOR HEALING HOTI HAI.
AYURVED ME REPAIR , INFLAMMATION CONTROL AUR JOINT STABILITY BADHATAE HAI .RELIEF KE SAATH LONG TERM STRENGTHENING ZAROORI HOTI HAI. SURGERY SE BACHNA POSSIBLE HOTA HAI AGAR DISCIPLINE KE SAATH TREATMENT AUR REST FOLLOW KIYA JAAYE.
YOGRAJ GUGGULU 2 GOLI DIN MEIN DO BAAR KHANE KE BAAD
MAHARASNADI KWATH – 15 ML GARAM PAANI KE SAATH DIN MEIN DO BAAR ASHWAGANDHA CHURNA 1 CHAMMACH RAAT KO GARAM DOODH KE SAATH SHALLAKI CAPSULE 1 CAPSULE DIN MEIN DO BAAR MAHANARAYAN TAIL YA VISHGARBHA TAIL SE SHOULDER PAR MALISH, USKE BAAD HALKI GARAM SEK.
BHAARI WEIGHT UTHANA, ACHANTAK JHATKE, GALAT POSTURE MEIN SONA, AUR THANDI HAWA KA DIRECT EXPOSURE. DHEERE DHEERE PHYSIOTHERAPY TYPE MOVEMENTS AYURVEDIC TREATMENT KE SAATH KI JA SAKTI HAIN.
SABR AUR REGULAR FOLLOW UP YAHAN SABSE ZYADA IMPORTANT HAI.
Yes but for better and faster and long term relief you have to do panchakarma therapy. Or some procedure like 1. Murivenna tail abhyanga on shoulder and keep the oil warm put it inside cotton and bandage the affected area with it Medicines 1. Lakshadi guggul 2BD A F 2. Bonton DQ 1BD if non vegetarian if not Bonton granules 1tsp BD A F 3. Tab shallaki 1 TID AF. This will show effect in 2 to 3 days. But procedure has to be done. Its called ansha pichu or shoulder pichu you can search on YouTube.
You need to have patience, after taking ayurvedic treatment if you see improvement then continue further Start with Mahavatvidhvansh vati 1-0-1 after food with water, will help reduce pain Rasnasapthakam kashaya 10ml twice daily after food with water Laxadi guggul 1-0-1 after food with water Need to take rest of that arm and shoulder . Avoid sour fermented foods. Apply ashwagandha+ kshirbala oil on affected area twice daily. If you can visit nearby ayurvedic panchkarma treatment centre, please consult ayurvedic physician for the treatment. This will speed up your recovery.along with oral medication. It will fasten your cure
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