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Will Ayurveda Help with My Kidney Issues? - #46998

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Hello i have 11 gfr and im taking ayurveda treatment from karma ayurveda. And i need to know if it will help me. My creatinine is 6.74. I have protein in urine. And my kidneys are smaller 7.2 cm. Im only 27 years old. Please help.

How long have you been experiencing kidney-related symptoms?:

- More than 6 months

Have you noticed any specific triggers for your symptoms?:

- Certain foods

What is your current diet like?:

- Balanced and nutritious
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Yes improvement is possible and yes treatment can help When kidney disease is identified and managed properly even at this stage the progression can be slowed significantly and are able to live stable lives for years Ayurvedic treatment works gradually and its main strength is supporting the remaining kidney function reducing protein leakage improving digestion reducing toxin load and improving overall strength and immunity

A GFR of 11 creatinine 6 point 74 protein in urine and smaller kidney size does indicate a chronic condition but chronic does not mean no scope It means the approach has to be disciplined consistent and patient Kidney tissue that is already damaged does not regenerate quickly but the remaining healthy nephrons can be protected and supported so that they continue to function better

when diet lifestyle and medicines are followed sincerely patients at similar levels have seen stabilization improvement in appetite reduction in swelling reduction in protein loss and better quality of life with sustained treatment

Ayurvedic medicines usually take time They do not act like painkillers or emergency drugs Initial months are about cleansing metabolic correction and stabilization Visible changes in reports may take several months and that is normal

Diet plays a very powerful role Food should be simple freshly cooked low salt and easy to digest Avoid packaged food outside food bakery items excess oil spicy food and very high protein meals Protein should be controlled not eliminated Vegetables should be well cooked Water intake should be steady spread across the day not excessive and not restricted unless swelling or breathlessness increases

Mental state is equally important Worry sadness and constant fear increase stress hormones which directly affect kidney circulation Try to keep a calm routine adequate sleep light movement and positive mindset

Do not compare your journey with others Every kidney condition behaves differently Focus on your own progress energy levels appetite sleep urine output and mental clarity

Continue treatment with faith and patience Do not keep changing therapies frequently Give the body time to respond

You may not see dramatic report changes immediately but still feel better internally which is a good sign Stability itself is a success in kidney disease

Your age discipline and willingness to take care are strong positives

Stay hopeful stay consistent and trust the healing process

If you feel anxious or low it is okay to acknowledge it but do not let it take over Healing is not only physical it is also emotional

You are doing the right thing by seeking help and guidance Have faith and move forward steadily

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Another Ayurvedic doctor told me its not possible to increase gfr And that made me worried.

What the other doctor said is partly correct from a technical point of view because in chronic kidney disease the kidney tissue that is already damaged does not regenerate like skin or liver

But this does not mean treatment has no value or that nothing can improve

In real practice our aim is to slow or stop further decline ,support the remaining healthy nephrons ,reduce protein loss,reduce toxin burden ,improve digestion ,circulation strength and immunity and delay complications.

When inflammation reduces digestion improves and metabolic stress comes down many patients show stabilization and sometimes small functional improvement or fluctuation in GFR especially when dehydration infection acidity or stress is corrected.

Even maintaining the same GFR for months or years is considered a success at this stage.

Ayurveda does not work by forcing numbers to rise quickly ,It works by creating a supportive internal environment so the kidneys can function at their best possible level for as long as possible.

So please do not think only in terms of increase or no increase .Think in terms of better appetite ,less weakness ,less swelling, stable urine output ,improved energy and mental clarity and better quality of life.

These changes are very meaningful and clinically important.

Different doctors explain things differently .My intention is to be honest without removing hope .Your condition needs discipline patience and continuity and you are already doing the right things.

Do not let one sentence create fear. Focus on consistency calm mind and steady care .We will move forward step by step with patience and faith.

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Hello I get why you’d be worried, especially being so young and having kidney problems. A GFR of 11 and creatinine of 6.74 mean your kidneys are really struggling – that’s called advanced chronic kidney disease, stage 5.

At this point, we’re really focused on making you comfortable and supporting your body, because, honestly, we can’t fully fix the kidney damage, no matter what kind of treatment it is.

YOUR CONCERN –You’re 27. –Kidneys aren’t doing great:GFR is 11, Creatinine is 6.74. –Other stuff: You’ve got protein in your pee, and your kidneys are small (7.2 cm). –What you’re doing now: Taking Ayurvedic medicine from Karma Ayurveda for over 6 months.

From an Ayurvedic point of view, kidney problems are linked to something called Mutravaha Srotas and an imbalance of Vata-Pitta.

Ayurvedic herbs can definitely help with things like: * Getting rid of some toxins. * Giving your body strength. * Helping with protein in your urine and swelling. * Just making you feel better overall.

But here’s the thing: with a GFR of 11, these herbs can’t bring back kidney tissue that’s already gone. They’re more about support and making you more comfortable, not a cure.

TREATMENT GOALS * Stop your kidneys from getting worse. * Deal with symptoms like feeling tired, swelling, and protein in your pee. * Keep your blood pressure and inflammation in check. * Just keep you healthy and strong generally.

AYURVEDIC PLAN OF TREATMENT

INTERNAL MEDICATION 1.Chandra prabha vati 1-0-1 after food 2. Veerataradi kashyam 15ml-0-15ml + 45 ml water after food 3 Trinapanchamoola kashayam 15ml-0-15ml +45 ml water after food 4. Sarvothobadra vati 1-0-1 after food

All medication just for 10 days followed by kidney profile test

DIET PLAN

✅INCLUDE Some fresh fruits and veggies, a diet low in protein (as your kidney doctor says – to ease the load on your kidneys), whole grains, a little bit of ghee, and drink enough water (again, ask your doctor how much).

❌AVOID Too much salt, processed foods, foods high in protein, heavy dairy, red meat, pickles, and anything fried.

LIFESTYLE * Get enough rest and do some light exercise. * Don’t drink alcohol, smoke, or take meds you don’t need. * Try to manage stress with meditation and breathing exercises.

With a GFR of 11 and creatinine of 6.74, you might need to look into dialysis or a kidney transplant pretty soon. Ayurveda can absolutely support your body, but it’s not a replacement for dialysis.

You need to keep checking your kidney function, electrolytes, and protein in your urine regularly.

If you suddenly get more swelling, can’t catch your breath, or pee less, you need to go to the hospital right away.

The good news is, Ayurvedic support can make you feel better, lessen your symptoms, and help slow down further kidney damage. But you absolutely have to work closely with your kidney doctor.

Warm Regards Dr. Snehal Vidhate

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Please know this that your phisician who is treating you and is keeping a track of your reports will be best to guide you.

Also know that in case of kidney physiological issue it is very difficult to exactly tell what is the drug doing in the body so best is to keep faith in your physician only.

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Take punrnavadhi kashyaam 1tab bd,siva gulika 1tab bd, chandraprabha vati 1tab bd, vastayamatakaghritam 1tab bd enough u ll get results

Dr RC BAMS MS

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Hlo,

I’m really sorry you’re going through this at such a young age. I’ll be very honest, supportive, and clear with you — because with kidney disease, clarity matters more than false hope.

Understanding your current condition (important) Based on what you’ve shared: - eGFR: 11 ml/min - Creatinine: 6.74 mg/dl - Protein in urine - Kidney size: 7.2 cm (both kidneys small) - Age: 27 years 👉 This combination indicates advanced chronic kidney disease (CKD Stage 5).

What does “small kidneys” mean? - Normal adult kidney size is ~9–11 cm - 7.2 cm means permanent scarring and shrinkage This tells us the damage is chronic and irreversible, not temporary

⚠️ No medicine—Ayurveda, allopathy, homeopathy, or any alternative therapy—can regenerate shrunken kidneys.

About Karma Ayurveda (very important truth) I need to say this clearly and responsibly: - There is no scientific evidence that any Ayurvedic treatment can reverse CKD stage 5 or increase kidney size - Many patients with advanced CKD lose precious time relying on claims of “kidney revival”

Some herbal preparations may: Temporarily reduce creatinine numbers (by dehydration or lab variation) Silently worsen kidney damage Contain hidden steroids or heavy metals

👉 If someone promises: “Creatinine will normalize” “Dialysis won’t be needed” “Kidneys will heal” That promise is medically false in your case.

Can Ayurveda help you at all? ✔️ What it can help with (if used carefully): - Appetite - Digestion - Mild symptom relief (nausea, bloating) - Stress and anxiety support ❌ What it cannot do: - Increase eGFR from 11 to normal - Regrow kidneys from 7.2 cm - Eliminate protein loss permanently - Replace the need for dialysis or transplant

What you SHOULD be doing right now (very important) 1. You must be under a nephrologist’s care If you’re not already — this is urgent. 2. Prepare for renal replacement therapy

At eGFR 11, you are approaching the stage where: - Dialysis preparation should begin (not panic, preparation) OR early transplant evaluation (best option at your age)

⚠️ Waiting until emergency dialysis is dangerous. Best long-term option for a 27-year-old: - Kidney transplant Gives best survival and quality of life

You may be eligible for: - Pre-emptive transplant (before dialysis) - Living donor (family member) - Many young patients live normal lives post-transplant

Diet & lifestyle (must be strict) Until you see a nephrologist, follow this renal-safe approach: - Diet - Low protein (not high-protein) - Low salt

Avoid: - Packaged foods - Pickles, papad - Bananas, oranges, coconut water (high potassium) - Fluids only as advised (do NOT force water)

❌❌ Avoid completely Painkillers (ibuprofen, diclofenac, etc.) Unverified herbal medicines “Detox” products

What I need you to understand emotionally This is not your fault You are not hopeless But false reassurance is dangerous

At 27, early transplant planning can save decades of your life My sincere advice to you ✔️ You may continue mild Ayurvedic supportive care only if: Your nephrologist is informed No unknown mixtures Regular blood tests every 2–4 weeks ❗ Do NOT depend on Ayurveda alone at this stage

Tq

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YOUR REPORTS SHOW ADVANCED CHRONIC KIDNEY DISEASE GFR 11 CREATININE 6.74 PROTEIN IN URINE AND KIDNEYS SIZE 7.2 CM MEANS THE KIDNEYS HAVE ALREADY SHRUNK AND THIS CHANGE IS NOT REVERSIBLE BY ANY SYSTEM OF MEDICINE INCLUDING AYURVEDA ALLOPATHY OR ANY ALTERNATIVE THERAPY THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW SO THAT FALSE HOPES DO NOT HARM YOU FURTHER

AT THIS STAGE AYURVEDA CAN HELP ONLY IN SUPPORTIVE CARE LIKE REDUCING SYMPTOMS SLOWING FURTHER DAMAGE IMPROVING DIGESTION APPETITE ENERGY AND QUALITY OF LIFE IT CANNOT REBUILD SMALL SHRUNKEN KIDNEYS OR BRING GFR BACK TO NORMAL ANY CENTER CLAIMING FULL CURE OR KIDNEY REGENERATION AT THIS STAGE IS NOT BEING MEDICALLY HONEST

KARMA AYURVEDA OR ANY OTHER AYURVEDIC TREATMENT MAY HELP YOU FEEL BETTER TEMPORARILY BUT YOU MUST BE VERY CAREFUL MANY SUCH TREATMENTS USE STRONG HERBS OR METAL BASED MEDICINES WHICH CAN SOMETIMES WORSEN KIDNEY DAMAGE IF NOT PROPERLY MONITORED DO NOT TAKE ANY MEDICINE WITHOUT REGULAR BLOOD TESTS

WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW IS REGULAR FOLLOW UP WITH A NEPHROLOGIST MONITORING CREATININE POTASSIUM PHOSPHORUS HEMOGLOBIN AND URINE PROTEIN STRICT DIET CONTROL LOW SALT LOW PROTEIN AS ADVISED BY DOCTOR AVOID PAIN KILLERS HERBAL MIXTURES UNKNOWN POWDERS AND OVER THE COUNTER MEDICINES CONTROL BP IF PRESENT EVEN SLIGHTLY

AT GFR 11 YOU SHOULD ALSO MENTALLY AND PRACTICALLY PREPARE FOR FUTURE OPTIONS LIKE DIALYSIS OR KIDNEY TRANSPLANT THIS DOES NOT MEAN IMMEDIATE DIALYSIS BUT IT IS BETTER TO BE INFORMED AND READY RATHER THAN SHOCKED LATER YOU ARE YOUNG AND THAT IS ACTUALLY A POSITIVE FACTOR FOR TRANSPLANT OUTCOMES

IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE AYURVEDA YOU CAN USE IT ONLY AS COMPLEMENTARY SUPPORT NOT AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR NEPHROLOGY CARE AND ONLY UNDER STRICT MONITORING IF AT ANY POINT YOUR CREATININE RISES POTASSIUM INCREASES OR SYMPTOMS WORSEN STOP AND REVIEW

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS MESSAGE IS NOT TO DISCOURAGE YOU BUT TO PROTECT YOU FROM FALSE PROMISES YOU STILL HAVE OPTIONS AND WITH THE RIGHT MEDICAL GUIDANCE YOU CAN LIVE A MEANINGFUL LIFE EVEN WITH KIDNEY DISEASE YOU ARE NOT ALONE AND YOU ARE NOT HOPELESS BUT THE HOPE MUST BE REALISTIC AND SAFE

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1.Chandraprabha vati 2 tab twice daily with water after meals 2.Gokshuradi guggulu 2 tab twice daily with water after meals 3.Punarnava mandur 2 tab twice daily with water after meals 4.Varunadi 20 ml with 20 ml water twice daily after meals

Diet: - Low salt, low protein (as per nephrologist guidance). - Avoid high-potassium foods if advised (banana, potato, tomato). - Favor boiled vegetables, rice, wheat, and light soups.

- Hydration: Controlled fluid intake. - Avoid: Painkillers (NSAIDs), heavy herbal decoctions without medical supervision.

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GFR 11 + creatinine 6.74 + small kidneys = advanced CKD (stage 5), likely irreversible scarring. Protein in urine + small size means kidneys have lost most function – dialysis or transplant is usually needed soon to survive. At 27, progression can be fast without intervention – symptoms (fatigue, swelling, nausea) will increase.

No strong evidence it will reverse stage 5 CKD. Ayurveda can support symptoms (reduce swelling, improve appetite) & quality of life in early stages, but studies show no reversal of low GFR/shrunken kidneys in advanced CKD.

Delaying dialysis/transplant can be dangerous – kidneys may fail suddenly.

See a Nephrologist urgently – get full evaluation (repeat tests, ultrasound, possible biopsy). Start planning dialysis (HD/PD) or transplant workup – early planning saves lives.

Safe Supportive Ayurveda (only alongside modern care) Punarnavadi Mandoor – 250 mg twice daily (reduces swelling) Gokshuradi Guggulu – 2 tablets twice daily (mild diuretic, kidney support) Chandraprabha Vati – 2 tablets twice daily (general strength)

Diet: low salt/protein, moong + ghee, pomegranate.

No Ayurveda can cure stage 5 – it’s supportive only. You’re young – with timely dialysis/transplant, life can be long & good. Don’t rely on unproven claims. Please see a good nephrologist soon – stay strong

Regards Dr Gursimran Jeet Singh MD Panchakarma

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With gfr- 11, S. Creatinine -6.74 , you are at stage 5 of CKD, at this stage very , very difficult to reverse, in process of reversing, not doing what nephrologist says is trying to spoil your case further. At this stage just take nephrologist consultation and follow his direction. Ayurvedic medicine at this stage will not show prominent results. Once you are settled with allopathic treatment , you can parallelly start ayurvedic treatment, so it works as supportive treatment. Diet is very important., low salt diet. Ayurvedic medicine you can take : Punarnava mandur 1-0-1 after food with water, will help improve your heamoglobin level. Renogrit 2-0-2 after food with water.will help reduce your S. Creatinine levels, but don’t depend alone on these medicines.

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HELLO,

Your kidneys act like natural filters -they clean waste from blood -remove extra waste -balance salts (sodium, potassium, phosphorus) -help control Bp -help make blood (via erythropoietin ) -keep bones strong

WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN YOUR CASE? -GFR 11-> kidneys are working at ~10% -Creatinine 6.47-> waste is accumulating -Kindey size 7.2 cm-> kidneys have shrunk and hardened -Protein in urine-> filters are damaged and leaking This means the kidney damage is chronic and permanent, not temporary

Think of it like A dried, scarred sponge cannot absorb water again

2) WHY KIDNEY SIZE MATTERS(very important) Normal adult kidney dize= 9-11 cm Your kidneys size= 7.2 cm

This tells us -damage has been present for years -functional kidney tissue is replaced by scar tissue -regeneration is not possible

AYURVEDIC VIEW In Ayurveda, this condition resembles -Mutravaha srotas dushti -basti vikara -predominant vata dosha increase -Ojas depletion

Ayurvedic pathology -long standing disease-> drying kidney tissue -Loss of filtration-> protein loss -Reduced agni-> toxin accumulation -srotas narrowing-> reduced urine formation

TREATMENT GOAL -slow further damage -reduce symptoms -maintain urine output -control complications -improve quality of life -delay emergency dialysis -prepare body for dialysis/transplant

INTERNAL MEDICATIONS

1) PUNARNAVA MANDUR= 2 tabs twice daily after meals

2) GOKSHURADI GUGGULU= 2 tabs twice daily after meals

3) CHANDRAPRABHA VATI= 1 tab twice daily after meals

= this all will support urine flow, reduce swelling, support remaining nephrons

4) TRIKATU= 1/4 tsp with warm water before meals =improve digestion, reduce toxin buildup, reduce nausea, heaviness

5) DASHMOOLA KASHAYA= 15ml + equal water twice daily after meals =reduce dryness, support nerve and tissue health

EXTERNAL TREATMENT

1) OIL MASSAGE= BALA TAILA- 3-4 times/week =reduces vata, improves circulation, reduces anxiety and body pain

YOGA AND PRANAYAM -anulom vilom= 10-15 min/day -bhramari= 5 rounds -Deep abdominal breathing =improves oxygenation, reduces Bp, calms nervous system

YOGA ASANAS -sukhasana -vajrasana after meals -pawanmuktasana -shavasana

AVOID -kapalbhati -fast breathing -inversions -intense twists

DIET- MOST IMPORTANT

GENERAL PRINCIPLES TO FOLLOW -low protein -low potassium -low phosphorous -low salt

CAN TAKE -white rice -lauki -ridge gourd -cabbage -cauliflower (boiled and drained) -apple -papaya small amount

AVOID COMPLETELY -banana -orange -coconut water -tomato -spinach -nuts and seeds -dairy excess -protein powders -herbal juices claiming “detox”

WATER INTEAKE -only as advised by doctors -overhydration is dangerous

HOME REMEDIES (safe only) No aggressive remedies

ALLOWED -jeera water (very mild) -coriander seed water (few sips) -warm cooked food -regular meal timing

AVOID -lemon water -aloe vera juice -wheatgreass -“kidney cleanse” drinks

RED ALERT SYMPTOMS -breathlessness -chest pain -severe vomiting -no urine -swelling of face/lungs -palpitations -confusion

You are young and that is your biggest strength

But -do not rely only on this -do not delay dialysis planning -start transplant evaluation early

Ayurveda can -support -strength -comfort

But science must lead at this stage

DO FOLLOW

HOPE THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL

THANK YOU

DR. MAITRI ACHARYA

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