Can my elderly mother take Supragya for sleep? - #47927
My mother is 78 years old ,hypertensive and with a pacemaker on medicines for past 45 years, pacemaker for past 10 years. Sedatives at night for sleep she takes, allopathic drugs. She has frequent stomach upset due to enlarged heart,liver issues,leaky valves.supragya she wants to start now for sleep, can she take?
How long has your mother been experiencing stomach upset?:
- More than 6 monthsWhat medications is she currently taking for her conditions?:
- Antihypertensives and sedativesHas she experienced any side effects from her current medications?:
- Mild side effectsDoctor-recommended remedies for this condition
Doctors' responses
Yes u can take don’t worry along with manasamithra vatakam 1tab bd enough u ll get results
Dr RC BAMS MS
Hello
I hear you. When you’re caring for a 78-year-old mom with a long history of heart problems, a pacemaker, high blood pressure, liver issues, and regular sedative use, choosing any sleep medicine is serious business. Your question makes total sense.
YOUR CONCERN
She’s 78. She’s lived with high blood pressure for over 45 years, had a pacemaker for a decade, has an enlarged heart with leaking valves, some liver trouble, and frequent stomach upsets. She’s already taking antihypertensives and allopathic sedatives to help her sleep. Now you’re wondering about adding Supragya.
Can she take Supragya for sleep?
No, I wouldn’t start Supragya in her situation unless her doctor is directly involved.
Why?
–Supragya has strong ingredients that act on the nerves and brain. – It can mess with her current sedatives, throw off her heart rhythm and blood pressure, and put extra strain on her liver. –For older people with pacemakers, heart issues, and multiple long-term meds, even gentle Ayurvedic sleep remedies can cause real problems—like too much drowsiness, confusion, swings in blood pressure, or even falls at night. So, starting Supragya on your own isn’t safe.
Why’s her sleep off in the first place?
In older adults, insomnia usually comes from age-related changes (“Vata prakopa”), weaker digestion, poor circulation, heart discomfort, or side effects from other meds. Ayurveda calls this Vardhakya-janya Anidra, and the best approach is gentle—no heavy-handed treatments.
So, what’s safer?
If you want to try Ayurveda, stick to gentle supportive methods:
1. External therapies (very safe): Oil massage (abhyanga) with warm Bala Taila or Ksheerabala Taila, especially foot and scalp massage at night. This can help her sleep without clashing with her other meds.
2. Simple nighttime drink: warm water with half a teaspoon of ghee at bedtime—only if her digestion can handle it.
3. Mild herbal option: tiny pinch (125mg) of Jatamansi churna with warm water at night, just two or three times a week. Watch closely for any extra drowsiness, confusion, or sudden blood pressure drops.
What should you absolutely avoid?
–Don’t mix Ayurvedic sleep meds with her current sedatives. –Don’t stop her sedatives suddenly. –Skip any strong or metallic Ayurvedic formulations. No self-medicating—her heart and liver can’t take the risk.
Most important?
–Focus on keeping her comfortable and safe. The goal isn’t perfect sleep, but gentle improvement. Sometimes small changes—like an earlier, lighter dinner, calming her digestion, or a soft bedtime routine—help more than any medicine.
You’re right to ask. Supragya isn’t a good idea for your mother. Stick to gentle, non-interfering approaches and don’t experiment on your own.
Warm Regards Dr. Snehal Vidhate
HELLO,
Your mother’s condition is high risk due to age 78, long standing hypertension, pacemaker, cardiac enlargement , liver involvement, and ongoing sedatives. So any new medicine- especially for sleep- must be very cautious
1) ABOUT SUPRAGYA FOR SLEEP Supragya is generally promoted as a medhya nidra supportive Ayurvedic formulation for memory, calmness, sleep. However -Not advisable to start on her own -can interact with sedatives, cardiac drugs, and Bp medicines -In elderly with weak digestion, liver strain, and heart disease, even herbal medicines may cause -excess drowsiness -Bp fluctuations -gastric irritation
AYURVEDIC UNDERSTANDING OF HER PROBLEM Her symptoms indicate -Vata predominance (age, slep, disturbance, pacemaker) -Pitta involvement (liver issues, acidity) -Weak Agni -> chronic stomach upset -Hridaya and Yakrit dushti (heart and liver stress)
So management should focus on -calming vata -supporting digestion -gentle sleep induction
SAFE APPROACH
A) FIRST PRIORITY- DIGESTION Without correcting digestion, sleep medicines won’t work -warm, light, freshlyy cooked food -avoid night meals heavy/oily/spicy -small dinner before 7 pm -warm water or jeera water in small sips
B) SLEEP SUPPORT
-BRAHMI VATI= 1 tab at night
-SHANKHAPUSHPI SYRUP= 1 tsp twice daily after meals
-ASHWAGANDHA CHURNA= 1 tsp with warm milk at bedtiime
EXTERNAL THERAPIES
OIL MASSAGE to feet and scalp warm sesame oil
FOOT MASSAGE before bed with war ghee
WARM BATH AT NIGHT These calm vata and improve sleep naturally
DIET GRAINS= soft cooked rice, wheat roti 1-2 thin, soft, oats/daliya well cooked
PROTEINS= moong dal, massor dal, well cooked, thin consistency
VEGETABLES= bottle gourd, ridge gourd, pumpkin, carrot, snake gourd, spinach
DAIRY =warm milk if tolerated at night, buttermilk daytime only diluted with jeera
FATS=smal quantity of cow ghee, avoid excess oil
FRUITS daytime onl= papaya apple, pomegranate, pear
AVOID -fried food, pakora, puri -bakery items, biscuits -spicy, oily, very salty food -curd at night -cheese, panner -raw salads -cold food and cold drinks -tea/coffee after noon
FLUIDS -warm water throughout the day -avoid large water intake at night -no ice cold water
SALT AND SUGAR -low salt important for heart and Bp -avoid pickles, papad, packaged food -sugar minimal or avoided
SIMPLE RULES TO REMEMBER -eat fresh, warm , light food -avoid overeating -sit calmly while eating -no ling down immediately after meals -gentle walk after lunch
LIFESTYLE
DAILY ROUTINE -wake up early but not before 5 am -no daytime sleep -fixed sleep time 10 pmm
VERY IMPORTANT -DAILY FOOT MASSAGE -gentle head oil twice weekly
ACTIVITY -slow walk 10-15 min
SLEEP HYGIENE -no screens after 8pm -dim lights after sunset -soft devotional music/mantra -warm feet before bed -calm environment
VERY IMPORTANT CAUTIONS -no fasting -no sudden diet changes -no new medicine -avoid stres, arguments, loud news at night
Do not start Supragya on your own
DO FOLLOW
HOPE THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL
THANK YOU
DR. MAITRI ACHARYA
FOR A 78 YEAR OLD PATIENT WITH LONG STANDING HYPERTENSION A PACEMAKER ENLARGED HEART LIVER ISSUES LEAKY VALVES AND NIGHT SEDATIVES THIS NEEDS TO BE HANDLED VERY CAREFULLY
SUPRAGYA IS A HERBAL FORMULATION USED MAINLY FOR SLEEP ANXIETY AND MILD COGNITIVE SUPPORT IN GENERAL IT IS CONSIDERED MILD BUT IN ELDERLY PATIENTS WITH CARDIAC DEVICES AND MULTIPLE ALLOPATHIC MEDICINES IT SHOULD NOT BE STARTED WITHOUT CAUTION
SHE IS ALREADY ON NIGHT SEDATIVES ADDING SUPRAGYA CAN INCREASE DROWSINESS CONFUSION DROP IN BLOOD PRESSURE AT NIGHT AND RISK OF FALLS
WITH A PACEMAKER AND VALVE ISSUES ANY MEDICINE THAT AFFECTS THE NERVOUS SYSTEM OR BLOOD PRESSURE SHOULD BE INTRODUCED VERY GENTLY
HER FREQUENT STOMACH UPSET IS MORE LIKELY DUE TO POOR CIRCULATION TO DIGESTIVE ORGANS LIVER CONGESTION LONG TERM MEDICATION LOAD AND AGE RELATED WEAK DIGESTION
FOR SLEEP SUPPORT AT THIS AGE NON MEDICINAL MEASURES SHOULD BE PRIORITY LIGHT EARLY DINNER WARM MILK AT NIGHT IF TOLERATED FOOT MASSAGE WITH WARM SESAME OIL AVOID DAYTIME SLEEP AFTER EVENING
FOR DIGESTIVE COMFORT JEERAKA WATER SMALL SIPS THROUGH THE DAY CAN HELP HINGVASTAKA CHURNA A VERY SMALL PINCH AFTER LUNCH CAN BE USED ONLY IF BP IS WELL CONTROLLED AND UNDER GUIDANCE
Hlo,
Most Supragya formulations contain combinations of Brahmi, Shankhpushpi, Jatamansi, Ashwagandha, sometimes Melatonin or sedative herbs. ❌ Not advised in her case
🌿 1. For Sleep (VERY MILD & SAFE OPTION) Jatamansi Churna Dose: 250 mg (¼ tsp) With: Warm milk or warm water Time: 30–45 min before sleep Frequency: Once daily ✔ Mild calming, does not suppress respiration, safer for elderly ⚠ If already on strong sedatives → start alternate days
🌿 2. For Stomach Upset (due to heart–liver congestion) Draksharishta Dose: 10 ml With: Equal water Time: After lunch ✔ Helps digestion, liver support, mild cardiac tonic
🌿 3. For Heart & Anxiety Support Arjuna Ksheerpak Dose: 40 ml Time: Morning, empty stomach ✔ Supports heart muscles, valves, reduces anxiety-related palpitations
🌿 4. Night-time supportive drink Warm milk + 1 pinch nutmeg (jaiphal) 3–4 nights/week only ❌ Avoid daily use
Tq
Considering your mothers age her long standing heart disease pacemaker leaky valves liver involvement chronic hypertension and regular use of sedatives it is important to be extremely cautious with anything new even if it is ayurvedic or herbal
Supragya is generally abrain tonic and calming support but in elderly patients with cardiac conditions pacemaker and liver stress it is not considered safe to start on ones own especially when she is already on night sedatives It may interact with her medicines increase drowsiness affect blood pressure or burden the liver and digestion which she is already struggling with
From an ayurvedic view her sleep disturbance and stomach upset are mainly due to vata aggravation along with compromised hridaya and yakrit function At this stage gentle regulation and safety is far more important than introducing new formulations
I would not advise starting supragya ,If sleep is disturbed include warm milk with a pinch of nutmeg ,abhyanga of feet with sesame oil , breathing before sleep and maintain fixed sleep timings These support vata without drug interaction.
Yes she can take supragya syrup but with caution.
1) Supragya Syrup
✅ She can take Supragya for sleep support.
Dose: 5 ml HS
Timing: 30–45 minutes before sleep
With: lukewarm water / plain water
Duration: 10–14 days
⚠️ Important: Do NOT combine Supragya with allopathic anti-anxiety/sedative medicines (it can increase excessive drowsiness, dizziness and fall risk). If needed, it should be taken only after consulting her treating physician.
2) Brahmi Vati
Dose: 1 tab HS (after dinner)
Duration: 30 days
3) Avipattikar Churna (for acidity/gastric upset)
Dose: 2 gm HS with lukewarm water
Duration: 15–21 days
4) Arjuna (heart support)
Option A: Arjunarishta 10 ml OD after dinner with equal water OR Option B: Arjuna cap 500 mg OD after dinner
🥗 Diet Advice
✅ Warm, light diet (soups/khichdi/moong dal) ❌ Avoid spicy, oily, late-night heavy meals
🧘 Lifestyle
Early dinner (before 8 PM)
Light walk after dinner
Avoid screen before sleep
As she is on a high medicine dosage I would not advice her with SUPRAGYA.
You could simple use JATAMANSI powder. Soak half tsp in a cup of hot water for 1 hour and give it to her an hour before sleep.
Remember you will not see the effect on the first day as it is not a sleeping pill.
With daily usage you will see results in a week or so.
Also would advice her to do pranayam but under the personal guidance of a trained YOGA GURU. Also music meditation (music at 3 Hz during sleep) will also help.
🌿 General Information about Supragya - Composition: Typically contains herbs like Ashwagandha, Brahmi, Shankhpushpi, Jatamansi, Tagar, and other medhya rasayanas (nervine tonics). - Intended use: Promotes calmness, reduces anxiety, supports sleep, and enhances cognitive function. - Potential effects: Mild sedative, adaptogenic, and nervine properties.
Concerns in Your Mother’s Case - Cardiac condition: Herbs like Ashwagandha and Tagar can influence blood pressure and heart rhythm. With a pacemaker and antihypertensives, this interaction must be monitored. - Liver issues: Since she already has liver involvement, any herbal formulation must be checked for hepatotoxicity or metabolic load. - Polypharmacy: She is on multiple allopathic drugs. Herbal medicines can interact with sedatives, antihypertensives, and cardiac medications. - Age & frailty: At 78, metabolism and drug clearance are slower, increasing risk of side effect
✅ Safer Ayurvedic Approaches for Sleep Support Instead of starting Supragya directly, gentler options may be considered (only under supervision): - Warm milk with nutmeg (jaiphal) at night – traditional, mild sleep aid. - Brahmi tea or infusion – calming, supports sleep without strong cardiac effects. - Shirodhara (oil drip therapy) or Abhyanga (oil massage) – non-drug Ayurvedic methods for relaxation. - Lifestyle: Evening routine with light food, calming music, pranayama (gentle breathing), and avoiding stimulants.
Warm Regards DR. ANJALI SEHRAWAT
Yes – Supragya Vati is generally safe and can be a gentle, supportive option to help reduce sedative dependence & improve sleep quality.
Recommended Dosage ½ tablet at night with warm water or milk (first 7–10 days). If no discomfort (no BP drop, no drowsiness, no stomach upset) , increase to 1 tablet at night.
Take after dinner, 1–2 hours before bed. Continue max 3–4 months, then reassess.
Monitor BP twice daily for first 2 weeks. Continue all heart medicines unchanged. Do not stop sedatives suddenly – taper only under doctor guidance. Add warm Brahmi Taila head massage 5 min nightly (very soothing).
Consult her cardiologist/physician first – just for final clearance. Stop immediately if any new symptoms
Regards Dr Gursimran Jeet Singh MD Panchakarma
Supragaya will calm the mind and promote relaxation. For sleep it’s better she takes 1) Brahmi vati 1-0-1 after food with water Jatamansi ghanvati 0-0-2 at bedtime. Ashwagandha churan 0-0-1tsp at bedtime with warm milk. Do Nasya with Brahmi grith 2 drops in both nostril once daily Light massage on head with Brahmi oil. Doing pranayam lom -vilom bhastrika bhamri 5-10mins twice daily under expert’s guidance. Have light dinner.
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