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Seeking Permanent Solution for Liver Issues - #43751

Rashmi Ranjan
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I have Liver issue.... High SGOT SGPT ratio... Low urea and BUN.... Tried everything liv52, Yacrujjay,Live on.....nothing worked.... I have high vata dosha.... So advised me somethingthat medicine can cure my liver issue permanently....tried sarvakalpa kwath vomited...please help me

How long have you been experiencing liver-related symptoms?:

- More than 6 months

What specific symptoms are you currently experiencing?:

- Abdominal pain

Have you made any dietary changes recently?:

- Yes, a complete overhaul
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Avoid oily, spicy and processed foods. Regular exercise and meditation. Increase intake of raw vegetables and fruits. Use boiled water for drinking. Tab Bhringraj 2-0-2 Tab.Shati 2-0-2 Sy.Zymnet plus 15ml twice after meal Follow up after 2 weeks.

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Take Bhumyamlaki churna 3 gm along with guduchi satva 500 mg in warm water twice a day Drakshadi kashyam-10 ml twice daily with water

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Don’t worry now taken Swarna kravyadi ras 1tab bd, yakrithplihatkachurna 1tsp, arogya vardini vati 1tab bd, kumariasva 20ml bd enough u ll get results

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Hello‍‌‍‍‌‍‌‍‍‌ Rashmi ji, Thank you for sharing your concerns. I honestly empathize with your situation when I hear that the liver enzymes remain high after numerous repeated treatments. But don’t be worried with us here for you. 😊

✅AYURVEDIC PLAN OF TREATMENT

✔️ Recommended — Mridu Basti (Most Important) Basti is the most Vata-pitta balancing therapy for a liver condition that is Vata-predominant.

This will: –Revitalize Agni –Relieve abdominal pain –Lessen liver inflammation –Normalize Vata-Pitta balance –Improve nutrient assimilation → improves urea/BUN naturally

👉 Yes, Basti is definitely able to provide you major support. It is specially made for your type of constitution and hence safe.

✅INTERNAL MEDICATION

I will prepare a Pitta-friendly, Vata-balancing liver plan that is free from side effects like vomiting.

👉 For Liver Healing 1.Drakshasava – 15 mL + equal water after lunch & dinner 2.Punarnava Mandoor – 1 tab twice daily after food 3.Arogyavardhini Vati (low dose) – 1 tab after lunch only (safe in a small dose; helps SGPT/SGOT) 4.Shivakshara Pachana Churna – ¼ tsp. with warm water after meals 5.Amalaki Rasayana – 1 tsp at bedtime

These herbs are gentle and well tolerated by Pitta-sensitive patients

✅DIET AND LIFESTYLE MODIFICATION

✔️Foods that heal your liver: Rice (soft cooked) Moong dal / moong khichdi Cow ghee (1–2 tsp/day) Pomegranate, soaked raisins Coconut water Bottle gourd, pumpkin, beetroot Warm water with 4–5 drops of lemon once daily

❌Avoid strictly:

Coffee Fermented foods Too much sour, bitter, or spicy Heavy proteins (until Agni gets better) At night: curd, fried foods

✔️Daily routine Warm water sipping 20–25 min slow evening walk Early dinner by 7–8 PM Abhyanga with sesame + coconut oil (mixed)

✅When Will You See Improvement?

SGOT/SGPT start coming down in 4–6 weeks Abdominal pain diminishes in 10–15 days Agni improves gradually within 30 days Long-term improvement with Basti course + medicines for 3 month

Yes, your liver condition is reversible. Considering your case, Basti would be the safest and most effective way for you. They are not needed, strong bitter liver medicines will only aggravate your Pitta.

Just the right Vata-pacifying Basti + Shamana herbs will give you that permanent relief you have been seeking.

May you be blessed with good health😊

Warm regards, Dr Snehal ‍‌‍‍‌‍‌‍‍‌Vidhate

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Hello… From what you have described High SGOT/SGPT ratio, low urea and BUN vomiting with strong decoction(satva kalpa kwath) long-term Vata aggravation, and no improvement with common liver. Tonic shows that liver is not just weak but highly sensitive and unable to tolerate strong medicines right now this is why liv53 type medicines sarvakalpa kwath and other hot or Pant formulation made things worse instead of better When? Vata is high, the liver becomes irritated over reactive and unable to process her that Ortho strong your system needs something gentle, cooling, healing, and not. Something that cleanses hard. You do not need strong shodhana you need soothing Raayanna for the liver

In case the best results come from medicines that prepare liver cells quietly without irritating the gut or causing vomiting. The first option I recommend is Arogyavardini vati -but take in a very small dose, one tablet after lunch for the first week, then one tablet after lunch and dinner from the second week Yasthimadhu churna 1/4 th teaspoon with warm water in the morning … it calms liver. ko stomach reduces information and makes Arogya Vardhini easier to tolerate. Include 1 teaspoon of cow ghee in our diet Take Avipattikara churna half teaspoon before lunch Drink coriander fennel tea Avoid dry food, cold food tea on an empty stomach, too much fasting, spicy or oily food Eat easily digested food, rice, moong dal, vegetables, coconut water, roasted cumin, water and small frequent meals This will stabilise vata significantly with then reduce liver irritation.

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take livtone 2 tds take brahmi 2 bd take triphala 2bd take drakshsar 5 ml tds with cold water avoid milk sugar etc

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hello!

When SGOT–SGPT remain high for many months, it usually means the liver is inflamed, but also the digestion is weak. In high Vata conditions, the liver becomes dry, reactive, and sensitive, so bitter, heavy, or strong herbal medicines (like Sarvakalpa kwath) can cause nausea or vomiting.

So the first step is not strong liver medicines. The first step is Vata pacification + gentle detox + then liver support. When we prepare your digestion first, the liver medicines start working properly.

Ayurvedic Treatment :

Start in this order. Do NOT take everything at once.

1. Ama Pachana (First 7 days)

This prepares your digestion so your liver can tolerate medicines.

Amapachana Vati – 2 tablets twice daily after food for 7 days Warm water only throughout the day

This is VERY important in your case.

Sukumara Ghrita – 1 teaspoon with warm water first thing in the morning Hingvastak Churna – ¼ teaspoon with food twice daily

This will stop vomiting tendency, reduce abdominal pain, and calm your stomach.

Start only after 2–3 weeks of the above.

Punarnavadi Kashayam Tablet – 1 tablet twice daily after meals Bhumyamalaki Churna – ½ teaspoon with warm water at night Arogyavardhini Vati – 1 tablet once daily after food

This combination is gentle, Vata-friendly, and effective for reducing SGOT, SGPT.

Diet :

Eat warm, soft, Vata-Settling foods: Khichdi Moong dal soup Cooked vegetables 1 teaspoon ghee daily

Avoid: Raw salads Cold drinks Excess bitter herbs Spicy/oily food Tea/coffee more than once

Investigations Needed

Please check: SGOT, SGPT, ALP, GGT Bilirubin (direct/indirect) Viral markers (HBsAg, HCV) Thyroid profile Vitamin D Ultrasound abdomen

Sometimes low urea/BUN happens in poor nutrition or low muscle mass, not just liver issues.

You’re not beyond help. You simply need a Vata-friendly, gentle approach, not strong kwaths that worsen vomiting. Once your digestion calms down, your liver will start responding beautifully. People with the same pattern (high SGOT/SGPT + high Vata + low BUN) often recover well when the treatment is done in THIS order.

I’m here with you through every step just let me know the last SGOT–SGPT report and I will fine-tune the plan.

Warm regards, Dr. Karthika

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1.Arogyavardhini vati 2 tab twice daily with water after meals 2.Bhumi Amla Churna 1/2 tsp twice daily with water 3.Punarnavasava 15 ml with 15 ml water twice daily after meals 4.Syp Amlycure 2 tsp thrice daily

✨ Diet & Lifestyle for Liver + Vata

Diet: - Favor warm, light meals: khichdi, mung dal, steamed vegetables. - Include bitter foods: methi, karela, neem chutney (small amounts). - Avoid fried, spicy, very sour foods, alcohol, and excess pulses. - Use ghee moderately for Vata balance.

Lifestyle: - Gentle yoga: Pawanmuktasana, Vajrasana, Setubandhasana. - Daily oil massage (abhyanga) with sesame oil for Vata pacification. - Regular sleep routine, avoid late nights. - Stress management: Anulom Vilom pranayama.

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Internal Medicines- 1. Bhumyamalaki Ghan Vati – 500 mg morning + 500 mg night after food 2 Arogyavardhini Vati – 1 tablet morning only after breakfast 3 Punarnava Mandoor – 250 mg morning + 250 mg night after food 4 Dadimadi Ghrita – 10 gm morning empty stomach with warm water

Daily Must-Do 200 ml warm moong soup + 1 tsp ghee twice daily Full-body warm Bala + Mahanarayan Taila massage → 10 min → hot bath

Diet Give only: moong khichdi + ghee, rice kanji, pomegranate, beetroot juice 100 ml, stewed apple Avoid completely: all bitter/katu medicines, tea-coffee, raw salads, fasting

Continue minimum 90 days → repeat LFT & RFT → 95 % patients get normal values with this gentle Vata-friendly approach.

Regards Dr Gursimran Jeet Singh MD Panchakarma

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HELLO,

Your liver tests show -High SGOT/ SGPT-> the liver cells are irritated or inflamed -Low urea/ Loe BUN-> your liver Is not processing proteins properly OR your diet is low in protein -Vata imbalance due to stress, fasting, irregular food Together, these indicate

Your liver is overworked, inflamed, and not repairing well, mainly because -Vata is high-> weak digestion + dryness -Pitta is disturbed->heat/inflammation in liver -Liver metabolism is slow -Strong herbal medicines (like sarvakalpa kwatha) irritate your system instead of helping

Ayurveda sees this as -Liver (yakrit) dusti + mandagni (weak digestion) + vata-pitta imbalance

TREATMENT GOALS -calm vata + pitta -improve digestive powder gently -support liver regeneration -strengthen your liver permanently

INTERNAL MEDICATIONS

1) PUNARNAVA MANDUR= 1 tab twice daily after meals for 12 weeks =reduces liver inflammation, improves blood and hemoglobin, restores metabolism, very gently on vata

2) AROGYAVARDHINI VATI= 1 tab once daily after lunch for 8 weeks =corrects liver enzymes, improves bile flow, helps fatty liver, inflammation, sluggish liver, but can aggravate vata if overdosed->so minimal dose

3) GUDUCHI SATVA= 1/2 tsp twice daily with warm water for 12 week =cooling, anti inflamatory , repairs liver cells, improves immunity, very good when the liver is overworked for long

4) KUTKI CHURNA= 1/4 tsp (125mg) once daily after lunch for 6 weeks = reapirs liver, decreases SGPT/SGOT, enhances bile release, helps in fatty liver and chronic inflammation

5) PHALATRIKADI CHURNA= 1/2 tsp churna in 1 cup hot water->sip slowly for 8 weeks = detoxifies liver gently, improves enzyme levels, helps vata + pitta

EXTERNAL TREATMENT

1) OIL MASSAGE= warm sesame oil + 10% castor oil daily =reduces vata, improves liver area circulation, reduces abdominal discomfort, helps digestion indirectly

2) MILD STEAM= after massage =especially abdomen +back region =helps reduce stiffess and vata, improves liver blood flow, promotes detoxification

GENTLE VIRECHANA This is a gentle purification, not aggressive purgation -1 tsp cow ghee every morning for 5 days -stop if loose stools start =removes pitta from liver , reduces enzymes levels, improves digestion, repairs liver cells

DIET -moong dal khichdi -cooked rice, soft chapatis -steamed vegetables= pumpkin, bottle gourd, beetroot, carrot -1-2 tsp ghee daily -coconut water -pomegranate -buttermilk with cumin after lunch -warm soups (vegetable/moong) -stewed apples -idli, upma, rice kanji

AVOID -fried food -spicy food -mustard oil -excess salt -fermented foods - pickles -bakery items -tomato, brinjal ,spinach (until heating) -tea/coffee In excess -alcohol -heavy protein powders

AYRUEVDIC EATING PATTERN -eat warm, freshly cooked meals -avoid cold foods, fridge food -do not skip meals -do not overeat -drink small sips of warm water during meals -dinner must be light

YOGA ASANAS -ardha matsyendrasana -bhujangasana -vajrasana -cat cow pose -pawanmuktasana series =Improves digestion, supports liver metabolism, reduces abdominal discomfort

PRANAYAM -nadi sodhana -shetali/sheetkari -bhramari

HOME REMEDIES -Turmeric + A2 ghee mix= take once daily after lunch -> reduces inflammation -Cumin-coriander-fennel tea= improves digestion, reduces pitta -Aloe vera fresh= 1 tbsp before breakfast- cools liver, repairs liver tissues -Sugarcane juice= 1 small glass, twice weekly-> excellent hepatoprotective drink

Liver heals beautifully if treated correctly You must avoid strain kashaya’s until digestion becomes stronger Your body is showing that it needs gentle, cooling, vata-pitta balancing care Combining Ayurveda + proper medical tests is the safest and fastest way to recover We will aim not just to reduce SGOT/SGPT but to rebuild liver strength permanently

DO FOLLOW

HOPE THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL

THANK YOU

DR. MAITRI ACHARYA

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HELLO,

Your liver tests show -High SGOT/ SGPT-> the liver cells are irritated or inflamed -Low urea/ Loe BUN-> your liver Is not processing proteins properly OR your diet is low in protein -Vata imbalance due to stress, fasting, irregular food Together, these indicate

Your liver is overworked, inflamed, and not repairing well, mainly because -Vata is high-> weak digestion + dryness -Pitta is disturbed->heat/inflammation in liver -Liver metabolism is slow -Strong herbal medicines (like sarvakalpa kwatha) irritate your system instead of helping

Ayurveda sees this as -Liver (yakrit) dusti + mandagni (weak digestion) + vata-pitta imbalance

TREATMENT GOALS -calm vata + pitta -improve digestive powder gently -support liver regeneration -strengthen your liver permanently

INTERNAL MEDICATIONS

1) PUNARNAVA MANDUR= 1 tab twice daily after meals for 12 weeks =reduces liver inflammation, improves blood and hemoglobin, restores metabolism, very gently on vata

2) AROGYAVARDHINI VATI= 1 tab once daily after lunch for 8 weeks =corrects liver enzymes, improves bile flow, helps fatty liver, inflammation, sluggish liver, but can aggravate vata if overdosed->so minimal dose

3) GUDUCHI SATVA= 1/2 tsp twice daily with warm water for 12 week =cooling, anti inflamatory , repairs liver cells, improves immunity, very good when the liver is overworked for long

4) KUTKI CHURNA= 1/4 tsp (125mg) once daily after lunch for 6 weeks = reapirs liver, decreases SGPT/SGOT, enhances bile release, helps in fatty liver and chronic inflammation

5) PHALATRIKADI CHURNA= 1/2 tsp churna in 1 cup hot water->sip slowly for 8 weeks = detoxifies liver gently, improves enzyme levels, helps vata + pitta

EXTERNAL TREATMENT

1) OIL MASSAGE= warm sesame oil + 10% castor oil daily =reduces vata, improves liver area circulation, reduces abdominal discomfort, helps digestion indirectly

2) MILD STEAM= after massage =especially abdomen +back region =helps reduce stiffess and vata, improves liver blood flow, promotes detoxification

GENTLE VIRECHANA This is a gentle purification, not aggressive purgation -1 tsp cow ghee every morning for 5 days -stop if loose stools start =removes pitta from liver , reduces enzymes levels, improves digestion, repairs liver cells

DIET -moong dal khichdi -cooked rice, soft chapatis -steamed vegetables= pumpkin, bottle gourd, beetroot, carrot -1-2 tsp ghee daily -coconut water -pomegranate -buttermilk with cumin after lunch -warm soups (vegetable/moong) -stewed apples -idli, upma, rice kanji

AVOID -fried food -spicy food -mustard oil -excess salt -fermented foods - pickles -bakery items -tomato, brinjal ,spinach (until heating) -tea/coffee In excess -alcohol -heavy protein powders

AYRUEVDIC EATING PATTERN -eat warm, freshly cooked meals -avoid cold foods, fridge food -do not skip meals -do not overeat -drink small sips of warm water during meals -dinner must be light

YOGA ASANAS -ardha matsyendrasana -bhujangasana -vajrasana -cat cow pose -pawanmuktasana series =Improves digestion, supports liver metabolism, reduces abdominal discomfort

PRANAYAM -nadi sodhana -shetali/sheetkari -bhramari

HOME REMEDIES -Turmeric + A2 ghee mix= take once daily after lunch -> reduces inflammation -Cumin-coriander-fennel tea= improves digestion, reduces pitta -Aloe vera fresh= 1 tbsp before breakfast- cools liver, repairs liver tissues -Sugarcane juice= 1 small glass, twice weekly-> excellent hepatoprotective drink

Liver heals beautifully if treated correctly You must avoid strain kashaya’s until digestion becomes stronger Your body is showing that it needs gentle, cooling, vata-pitta balancing care Combining Ayurveda + proper medical tests is the safest and fastest way to recover We will aim not just to reduce SGOT/SGPT but to rebuild liver strength permanently

DO FOLLOW

HOPE THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL

THANK YOU

DR. MAITRI ACHARYA

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Start with Livamrit advance 1-0-1 after food with water Avipattikar tablet 1-0-1 after food with water. Avoid processed fatty fast foods, oily, fried foods. Take soft diet and boiled smashed vegetables in your diet. Vegetable soup is advisable. No non veg if non-vegetarian. Follow up after 15 days

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✔️ Do’s: ✔️ Millet roti Buttermilk (daily include in your meal) Moong dal (green and yellow both are ok) All fruit vegetables Leafy vegetables (except methi and dil)

🧘‍♀️ Yogasan : 🧘‍♀️

1. Bhujangasana (Cobra Pose) 2. Dhanurasana (Bow Pose) 3. Ardha Matsyendrasana (Half Lord of the Fishes Pose) 4. Paschimottanasana (Seated Forward Fold) 5. Halasana (Plow Pose) 6. Sarvangasana (Shoulder Stand Pose) 7. Matsyasana (Fish Pose) 8. Supta Matsyendrasana (Reclined Spinal Twist) 9. Surya Namaskar 10. Malasan (Squats Pose)

🧘‍♀️ Pranayam : 🧘‍♀️ 1. Anulo Vilom 2. Bhramari 3. Kapalbhati 4. Shitali 5. Sitkari

❌ Donot’s: ❌ Tea Coffee Addictions Dals (except moong) Sour Packed food Processed food Achar (pickles) Papad Fried food Avoid dairy completely Non veg products

💊 Medication: 💊

Tab. Live 52 DS 1 tab twice a day before food. Tab. Arogyavardhini Vati 2 tabs twice a day before food. Tab. Ampachak Vati 2 tabs twice a day before food. Syp. Bhunimbadi Kadha 2 tsp twice a day before food.

Tab. Shankhavati 2 tabs twice a day after food suck and eat

Tab. Gandharva Haritaki 2 tabs at night with one glass hot water.

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Given the complexity of liver concerns and high Vata dosha, Ayurveda can provide a comprehensive approach tailored to your needs. Combining dietary modifications, lifestyle changes, and herbal support can help balance your doshas and promote liver health. Here’s a possible approach for your situation:

Firstly, focus on Vata balancing diet. Emphasize warm, cooked meals that are easy to digest and include foods like rice, wheat, oats, dairy products if tolerated, spices like cumin, ginger and fennel. Avoid raw, cold, dry, and overly processed foods which can aggravate Vata. Make sure your meals are regular, perhaps small but frequent throughout the day, to help stabilize your digestion.

In terms of herbal remedies, instead of those you’ve already tried and didn’t work, you could consider Guduchi (Tinospora cordifolia) which is highly valued in Ayurveda for its liver-protective properties. Brahmi (Bacopa monnieri) might also be useful, as it’s known to calm Vata and support the nervous system. However, it’s crucial to consult with a qualified Ayurvedic practitioner before starting any new herbs to ensure they are appropriate for your specific condition.

Additionally, lifestyle adjustments such as adding daily routines that ground Vata, are helpful. Try establishing a consistent sleep schedule, going to bed by 10 PM and awakening by 6 AM. Gentle yoga or Pranayama (breathing exercises) can be beneficial for reducing stress, which often exacerbates Vata imbalances.

It’s critical to assess your specific triggers and reduce stress, engage in activities that bring you joy and relaxation, like moderate exercise or meditation, which also aid liver function and help balance Vata.

Finally, I would recommend seeking an experienced Ayurvedic physician for a thorough evaluation, as personalized treatment is key to addressing complex issues like yours. If your symptoms worsen or there’s any concern about your health, please seek urgent care from a healthcare provider.

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To address liver issues with high SGOT and SGPT levels, especially when treatments like Liv52 or others haven’t helped, let’s focus on understanding the root causes from the Siddha-Ayurvedic perspective, considering your high vata condition. It’s essential to address your digestion and liver health through multiple angles, including diet, lifestyle, and specific remedies.

Firstly, ensure your diet is supportive of balancing vata. Focus on warm, cooked foods that are easy to digest. Include ghee in your meals, as it helps pacify vata. Avoid raw, cold, or dry foods which can aggravate vata. Favor sweet, sour, and salty tastes in your daily meals.

Think about including kitchen herbs like turmeric and cumin, which aid in liver support and digestion. Boil half a teaspoon of turmeric powder in a cup of water, and consume it warm in the morning on an empty stomach. It enhances agni and helps with detoxifying the liver.

For herbal formulations, consider bhringraj. It’s known in Ayurveda for supporting liver function. Prepare a tea by boiling bhringraj leaves (or powder if leaves aren’t available) and drink this once or twice daily. Start with small amounts to monitor your body’s response, especially given your reaction with sarvakalpa kwath.

Remember, lifestyle plays a role, too. Engage in regular gentle exercises like yoga, which helps calm vata and enhances circulation to all the tissues, including the liver. Pranayama practices like Nadi Shodhana can also support balancing vata by calming the nervous system.

Yet it’s crucial to work closely with a healthcare provider for frequent monitoring of your liver enzymes and overall health, especially if symptoms persist or worsen. They can ensure all our efforts support your current needs without compromising your condition.

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