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Seeking Ayurvedic Remedies for Autoimmune Disease and COPD - #48384

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I am a 85 years old man. I am suffering from unspecified Autoimmune disease and lost about 15 kg weight in last one year. Presently under treatment of mild COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease) and take tablet Pirfemidone 200 mg three times a day. I sometimes have overwhelming negative thoughts and anxiety. What Ayurvedic medicines could help me whithout interactive with or affecting effectiveness of Allopathic medicines?

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AYURVEDIC PRESCRIPTION (8–12 weeks)

1) For COPD / Breath Support (Safe Supportive)

A) Sitopaladi Churna

Dose: ½ tsp (2 g)

With: honey OR lukewarm water

Timing: BD after food

B) Talisadi Churna

Dose: ½ tsp

With: honey

Timing: BD ✅ improves cough, breath, mucus, lung strength.

If the patient has gastritis/acidity, use with lukewarm water, not honey.

2) For Autoimmune Support + Ojas Building (Non-aggressive)

A) Ashwagandha capsule

Dose: 250 mg OD

Timing: after dinner ✅ improves strength, sleep, anxiety, weight maintenance.

⚠️ Avoid high dose in autoimmune unless supervised; therefore low dose is chosen.

B) Guduchi (Giloy) Satva

Dose: 250 mg OD

Timing: morning after breakfast ✅ immune modulation, reduces inflammation.

3) For Weight Loss + Appetite + Digestion (Very important)

A) Chitrak Haritaki Avaleha

Dose: 1 tsp

Timing: Morning & evening after food ✅ best for COPD + digestion + appetite.

B) Drakshasava

Dose: 15 ml + equal water

Timing: after lunch ✅ improves appetite, strength, fatigue.

4) For Anxiety + Negative Thoughts / Sleep

A) Brahmi Vati

Dose: 1 tablet

Timing: Night after dinner ✅ calms mind, supports sleep, reduces anxiety.

B) Saraswatarishta

Dose: 10 ml + equal water

Timing: after dinner ✅ for anxiety, brain nourishment, memory support.

🧴 EXTERNAL THERAPY (Highly recommended)

Abhyanga (Oil massage)

Oil: Mahanarayan tail / Ksheerabala tail

Method: gentle body massage 10–15 min

Frequency: 4–5 days/week ✅ best Vata pacifier, improves sleep, strength, anxiety.

🍲 DIET PLAN (Weight Gain + Lung Friendly)

✅ Recommended

Warm soft foods only

Moong dal khichdi + ghee

Milk + turmeric (if tolerated)

Dates (2/day), soaked raisins (7/day)

Almond paste 5 almonds/day

soups: carrot, pumpkin, bottle gourd

Ghee 1–2 tsp/day mandatory (ojas builder)

❌ Avoid

Cold water, cold curd, ice

Excess spicy food

Fried snacks

Late dinner

Excess tea/coffee

🧘 BREATHING / PRANAYAMA (Only mild COPD-safe)

Anulom Vilom: 5–7 min

Bhramari: 5 rounds

Gentle morning sunlight walk 10–15 min ✅ improves oxygenation + mood.

⚠️ Avoid forceful Kapalbhati in COPD elderly.

Expected improvement timeline

Breath + appetite: 2–3 weeks

Weight stabilization: 4–8 weeks

Anxiety/sleep: 7–14 days

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THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT AND SHARING YOUR CONDITION SO OPENLY AT EIGHTY FIVE YEARS OF AGE WITH AUTOIMMUNE INVOLVEMENT WEIGHT LOSS MILD COPD AND ONGOING PIRFENIDONE TREATMENT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL SAFE AND SUPPORTIVE IN ANY AYURVEDIC INTERVENTION THE GOAL HERE IS NOT TO REPLACE OR INTERFERE WITH YOUR ALLOPATHIC TREATMENT BUT TO SUPPORT MIND STRENGTH DIGESTION WEIGHT STABILITY AND RESPIRATORY COMFORT WITHOUT ANY DRUG INTERACTION

FIRST PLEASE BE REASSURED THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN AYURVEDIC MEDICINES WHICH ARE CONSIDERED SAFE SUPPORTIVE AND NON INTERFERING WHEN USED IN LOW DOSES WITH PROPER TIMING ESPECIALLY IN ELDERLY PATIENTS

FROM AN AYURVEDIC POINT OF VIEW YOUR SYMPTOMS SUGGEST VATA PREDOMINANCE WITH DHATU KSHAYA PRANA VAHA SROTAS WEAKNESS AND MANOVIKARA ANXIETY AND NEGATIVE THOUGHTS AUTOIMMUNE CONDITIONS IN OLD AGE ARE OFTEN SEEN AS OJOKSHAYA AND VATA AGGRAVATION RATHER THAN A SINGLE DOSHA DISORDER

FOR MIND CALMING AND ANXIETY WITHOUT RESPIRATORY DEPRESSION OR DRUG INTERACTION ASHWAGANDHA CAN BE USED SAFELY IN YOUR CASE DESPITE ITS USHNA VIRYA BECAUSE IN ELDERLY VATA PREDOMINANT CONDITIONS IT ACTS AS A STABILISER NOT A STIMULANT ASHWAGANDHA CHURNA ONE TO TWO GRAMS AT NIGHT WITH WARM MILK OR WARM WATER THIS DOSE IS LOW SAFE AND DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH PIRFENIDONE IT HELPS CALM NEGATIVE THOUGHTS IMPROVE SLEEP AND SUPPORT WEIGHT AND MUSCLE MASS

FOR MENTAL STRENGTH AND COGNITIVE SUPPORT BRAHMI GHANA VATI ONE TABLET ONCE DAILY AFTER BREAKFAST THIS IS NON SEDATING NON ADDICTIVE AND SAFE WITH COPD MEDICATIONS IT HELPS WITH ANXIETY FEAR AND MENTAL FATIGUE

FOR RESPIRATORY SUPPORT WITHOUT AFFECTING COPD MEDICINES YASHTIMADHU CHURNA ONE GRAM TWICE DAILY WITH WARM WATER THIS SOOTHES AIRWAYS SUPPORTS LUNG TISSUE AND IS SAFE EVEN IN LONG TERM USE

FOR WEIGHT LOSS AND GENERAL WEAKNESS DRY DATES POWDER ONE TEASPOON DAILY WITH WARM MILK OR WATER OR CHYAWANPRASH ONE TEASPOON IN THE MORNING IF DIGESTION PERMITS THIS SUPPORTS OJAS AND IMMUNITY WITHOUT IMMUNE OVERSTIMULATION

IMPORTANT TIMING ADVICE KEEP AT LEAST A TWO HOUR GAP BETWEEN AYURVEDIC MEDICINES AND PIRFENIDONE TO AVOID ANY ABSORPTION RELATED ISSUES

DIET AND LIFESTYLE ARE AS IMPORTANT AS MEDICINE TAKE SMALL FREQUENT WARM MEALS AVOID RAW COLD DRY AND VERY SPICY FOOD USE GHEE IN SMALL QUANTITY DAILY ENSURE DAYTIME SUNLIGHT EXPOSURE AND GENTLE BREATHING EXERCISES ONLY AS TOLERATED

WHAT TO AVOID STRONG IMMUNOSTIMULANTS LIKE GUDUCHI SATVA IN HIGH DOSES STRONG METALLIC RASAYANAS ANY HERB CLAIMING TO CURE AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE ANY MEDICINE WITHOUT MEDICAL SUPERVISION

INVESTIGATIONS THAT SHOULD BE MONITORED REGULARLY LIVER FUNCTION TESTS WEIGHT AND APPETITE OXYGEN SATURATION SLEEP QUALITY AND ANXIETY LEVELS

IN SUMMARY THE ABOVE AYURVEDIC SUPPORT IS GENTLE SAFE AND COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR CURRENT ALLOPATHIC TREATMENT IT WILL NOT REDUCE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF PIRFENIDONE AND CAN IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE MENTAL CALM AND STRENGTH WHEN USED CONSISTENTLY AND CAUTIOUSLY

IF ANY NEW SYMPTOM LIKE INCREASED BREATHLESSNESS EXCESS HEAT OR DIGESTIVE DISCOMFORT APPEARS MEDICINES SHOULD BE REVIEWED IMMEDIATELY

AYURVEDA IN SUCH CASES IS BEST USED AS A SUPPORTIVE HEALING SYSTEM NOT AN AGGRESSIVE ONE AND WITH THIS APPROACH IT CAN OFFER COMFORT STABILITY AND DIGNITY TO HEALTH IN ADVANCED AGE

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Medicines 1 Ashwagandha Lehyam – 5 gm once at night with warm water or milk (reduces anxiety, negative thoughts, supports strength & weight). 2 Brahmi Vati (plain or gold) – ½–1 tablet at night with warm water (calms mind, reduces overwhelming thoughts & anxiety). 3 Shatavari Kalpa – 5 gm once at night with warm water (nourishing, supports immunity & weight gain). 4 Sitopaladi Churna – 1–2 gm + honey twice daily (gentle respiratory support for mild COPD, no interaction).

Daily Routine & Diet Tips Small, frequent meals: moong khichdi + 1–2 tsp ghee, mashed banana, pomegranate, warm soups. 3–4 L warm water spread throughout day. 10 min gentle Anulom-Vilom pranayama (sitting) morning & evening – excellent for anxiety & breathing. Sleep 10 PM – 6 AM strictly (very important at 85).

Show this list to your treating doctor (pulmonologist/rheumatologist) before starting, get clearance (Pirfenidone is sensitive). Start with half dose first 7 days and observe for any change in breathing or digestion. If any new symptom (worsening breathlessness, swelling, etc.) then stop immediately & inform doctor. This is one of the gentlest & safest supportive combinations for elderly autoimmune + COPD patients. Start Ashwagandha 5 gm + Brahmi ½ tablet tonight , mind & energy should feel lighter soon.

Regards Dr Gursimran Jeet Singh MD Panchakarma

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Take talishyadi churna 1/2 tsp 2 times Take sitophaladi churna 5 gm 2 times day

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Your symptoms are mainly due to age related tissue depletion autoimmune imbalance weak digestion and vata dominance which together cause weight loss breath weakness anxiety and repetitive negative thoughts the aim of ayurvedic support here is to nourish the body calm the mind support lungs gently and protect digestion without disturbing your ongoing allopathic treatment

You can take brahmi tablet 250 mg once daily after breakfast for anxiety and negative thoughts shatavari churna 250 mg once daily with warm milk or warm water for weight and strength sitopaladi churna 250 mg once daily with honey for lung comfort amalaki churna 250 mg once daily after food for gentle immunity and liver support keep minimum two hour gap from pirfenidone eat warm soft food avoid cold and raw items and take slow relaxed breathing daily

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Chitrakiharitaki lehyam 1tsp Somyog syrup 20ml bd Laxmi Vilas ras 1tab od enough

U ll get results

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Hi Vasa avelah-1 tsp BD Shwas kuthar rasa-2-BD Laxmivilas rasa nardiye-2-BD

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1.Guduchi ghan vati 2 tab twice daily with water after meals 2.Chyawanprash 1 tsp with warm milk empty stomach in the morning 3.Swasa kuthar rasa 1 tab twice daily with water after meals 4.Pushkarmool capsules 1 cap twice daily with water after meals 5.Vasavaleha 1 tsp twice daily with warm milk after meals

🥗 Lifestyle & Diet Tips - Diet: Warm, soft, nourishing foods—khichdi, soups, milk with ghee, soaked almonds. - Avoid: Cold drinks, heavy fried foods, excess sour/spicy items (they aggravate COPD and autoimmune inflammation). - Breathing practices: Gentle Anulom Vilom (alternate nostril breathing), avoid forceful pranayama. - Mind care: Brahmi, Ashwagandha, and meditation can help reduce anxiety and negative thoughts. - Rest: Prioritize restorative sleep, with head slightly elevated to ease breathing.

Adv: Take haldi milk at bedtime

Warm Regards DR. ANJALI SEHRAWAT

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Hello

First off, I really appreciate how thoughtful your question is. It takes courage and wisdom to look for safe ways to support your health at this stage, especially with everything you’re managing—age, autoimmune issues, COPD, and significant weight loss. You’re right to check how Ayurveda might work alongside your current medicines, especially Pirfenidone.

Let’s keep things simple and safe. The main goal now isn’t to experiment or chase big changes, but to keep you comfortable, steady, and as strong as possible.

YOUR CONCERN

- Age: 85 years - Health issues: Unspecified autoimmune disease, mild COPD, about 15 kg weight loss in the past year - Medicines: Pirfenidone 200 mg, three times a day - Mental health: Anxiety, lots of negative thoughts

You’re looking for Ayurvedic options that won’t mess with your allopathic medicines. That’s a smart move.

With Ayurveda, the focus is on gentle support: - Building strength (Bala) - Balancing the immune system (not overstimulating it) - Nourishing the lungs - Calming the mind

Your symptoms—weight loss, anxiety, weakness—show a Vata predominance. There’s also some loss of Ojas (the body’s inner strength), and your lungs need extra care. Mentally, that restless, anxious feeling ties back to this too.

Now, with autoimmune diseases, Ayurveda doesn’t try to crank up your immunity. The goal is to balance it, keep it steady, and avoid anything harsh.

Here are some safe Ayurvedic options that generally don’t interact with Pirfenidone or COPD medicines, as long as you stick to low doses:

1. Ashwagandha Churna - 250 mg once a day after food (not at night) - Helps with anxiety, negative thoughts, and strength - Supports weight maintenance - Safe at low dose with your current meds

2. Brahmi Vati (plain, no gold) - 1 tablet after breakfast - Calms the mind, helps sleep, eases mental fatigue - No known issues with your current medicines

3. Chyawanprash (regular kind, not extra-strong) - ½ teaspoon in the morning - Supports lungs, mild appetite boost, gentle tonic for seniors - Skip if your blood sugar runs high

4. Sitopaladi Churna - ½ teaspoon with honey, once a day - Good for lungs, eases dryness and irritation - Safe in mild doses with COPD

5. Shankhpushpi Syrup - 2 teaspoons at bedtime - Calms negative thoughts, helps sleep, safe for elderly

A few other gentle ideas: - Stick to warm, soft, nourishing foods; avoid cold, raw, or dry stuff - Eat small, frequent meals - Try a light sesame oil massage a few times a week - Take it easy—don’t overexert or get chilled

For anxiety and restless thoughts: - Try 5–7 minutes of slow nasal breathing each day - Gentle spiritual reading or soothing music can help - Limit your news or social media intake

Keep up regular visits with your pulmonologist. Keep an eye on: - Liver function (Pirfenidone can affect this) - Weight and appetite - Any new symptoms—if anything changes, stop the Ayurvedic meds and check in with your doctor

Honestly, the way you’re approaching your health—asking questions, double-checking before starting anything new—is inspiring. The Ayurvedic suggestions here are meant to support your main treatment, not replace it.

Wishing you strength, calm, and comfort.

Warm regards, Dr Snehal Vidhate

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For the autoimmune pathology u can start with amruthadhi guggulu tab 1-0-1 after food dashamoolakatutrayadhee kashayam 20 ml twice a day after food Agasthya hareetaki 1 tsp twice a day after food

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HELLO,

You are experiencing three main problems together:

1) AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE This means your body’s defence system (immunity) has become confused and is reacting against your own tissues instead of only fighting infections

2) COPD (lung weakness) Your lungs have become less elastic and more sensitive, cause breathlessness, cough, and reduced oxygen exchange

3) EXCESSIVE WEIGHT LOSS, WEAKNESS AND ANXIETY This shows that -your body tissues are not being nourished properly -digestion and absorption are weak -energy reserves are low -mind is affected, causing fear, negative thoughts, and anxeity

According to Ayurveda : Your Vata dosha is very high -> causes weight loss, dryness, anxiety, breathlessness

Your Pitta dosha is also disturbed -> causes inflammation and autoimmune reactions

Your Kapha dosha is depleted -> causes weakness, lung vulnerability, tissue loss

You Ojas (vital life energy and immunity balance) is low-> leads to poor resistance, mental stress, and fatigue

IMPORTANT Your condition is NOT due to low immunity, but due to imbalanced immunity. So strong immune boosters are harmful for you

TREATMENT GOALS -stabilize immunity -nourish body tissues slowly -support lungs gently -calm the nervous system -avoid interaction with pirfenidone -protect liver and digestion

INTERNAL MEDICATIONS

A) FOR STRENGTH, WEIGHT AND TISSUE NOURISHMENT

1) SHATAVARI CHURNA= 1/2 tsp twice daily with warm milk for 3 months =nourishes all body tissues, improves appetite and digestion gently, supports immunity without overstimulation, reduces dryness and weakness

2) BALA CHURNA= 1/4 tsp once daily with warm water after meals for 3 months =improves muscle strength, reduces fatigue, supports nerves and lungs

B) FOR LUNGS AND COPD SUPPORT

1) SITOPALADI CHURNA= 1/4 tsp twice daily with honey after meals =clears chest congestion, improves breathing comfort, reduces cough and throat irritation

2) YASHTIMADHU CHURNA= 1/4 tsp once daily with warm water for 8 weeks =soothes lung lining, reduces inflammation, protects respiratory tract

C) FOR ANXIETY, NEGATIVE THOUGHTS AND SLEEP

1) BRAHMI VATI = 1 tab after breakfast with warm water for 3 months =calms mind, reduces anxiety and fear, improves emotional stability, does not stimulate immunity

GENTLE RASAYANA

1) CHYWANPRASHA= 1/2 tsp once daily morning for 3 months =supports lungs, improves appetite, gentle rejuvenation

EXTERNAL THERAPIES

1) OIL MASSGE= WARM SESAME OIL -Areas= chest, back, feet -Frequency= 3-4 times/week =reduces vata, improves sleep, strenghtens nerves and lungs

2) STEAM INHALATION -plain steam or with a pinch of turmeric -once daily = opens airways, reduces chest tightness

YOGA AND PRANAYAM -Anulom Vilom -bhramari

NOT ALLOWED -kapalbhati -bhastrika -breath holding -strenuous yoga

Reason = these increase vata and worsen breathlessness

DIET -warm, soft foods -rice gruel -moong dal -cooked vegetables -ghee 1 tsp daily -warm milk -dates soaked overnight

AVOID -cold foods and drinks -raw vegetables -dry foods biscuits, toast -fermented foods -spicy, fried food -late dinner

SIMPLE HOME REMEDIES -warm milk + pinch turmeric at night -ajwain water pinch boiled for digestion -soaked almonds 2-3 daily

At your age, less medicine is more medicine

The aim is comfort, stability, nourishment, and peace, not aggressive correction

Ayurveda here is -a support system -a strengthening approach -a mental stabilizer -a quantity of life enhancer

DO FOLLOW

HOPE THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL

THANK YOU

DR. MAITRI ACHARYA

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