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Question #32793
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How to reduce knee jointpain since 5 years - #32793

Lakshmi Narasamma

Knee joint pain since 4 years gait was abnormal and achieved menopause at 34 years no crepitus no redness no swelling she can'teven lift heavy weight age 51 years please can you provide information regarding this

Age: 51
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HELLO LAKSHMI JI, 1. Trayodashanga guggulu-1-1-1 after meals ( crush this tablet into 2-3 parts for better absorption) 2. Ekangveer Ras 2-0-2 after meals 3. Mahanarayan tel- Apply over painful areas.

Diet- . Include ginger, asafoetida, Fenugreek, turmeric, garlic, drumstick,ghee,milk in diet. . Avoid peas, cauliflower , capsicum,kalay daal.

Yoga and exercises- .Ankle rotation,cat-cow pose ,flexion- extension of knee joint.

Lifestyle modifications - . Reduce climbing stairs,sitting crosslegged. . Avoid prolonged standing.

Follow these and you will get relief. REVIEW AFTER 15 DAYS. Take care Regards, Dr. Anupriya

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You are 51 years old, having knee joint pain for the last 4 years with difficulty in walking (abnormal gait) and weakness on lifting weight. There is no swelling, redness, or crepitus, but you also mentioned that menopause occurred early at 34 years. This history suggests that your bones and joints may have become weak over time, possibly due to hormonal changes, degeneration, or early osteoporosis.

First Step – Investigations Knee Joint X-ray (both sides, AP & lateral view) – to check for osteoarthritis or degenerative changes. Bone Mineral Density (DEXA scan) – considering early menopause, to rule out osteoporosis. Vitamin D & Calcium levels – to check for deficiency. Ayurvedic View Due to early menopause, there is likely dhatu kshaya (tissue depletion) and Vata aggravation, which directly affects the joints. This leads to sandhishula (joint pain), weakness, and gait disturbance.

Ayurvedic Management Advice Panchakarma Therapy – very helpful in your case: Snehan & Swedan (oil massage + steam) Janu Basti (medicated oil pooling over knees) Basti Chikitsa (medicated enema) – excellent for Vata-related joint disorders Upnaha

Please visit a nearby Ayurvedic physician/centre and get Panchakarma done under their supervision. internal medication 1. tryodashanga guggulu 2 bd 2. syp. boniheal 2 tsf bd 3. rasanadi kadha 2 tsf bd

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Mahayogaraj guggulu 1-0-1 Dashamoola aristha 15-0-15 ml with water Mahanarayana taila - local application

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Avoid sour, fermented food and bakery products. Regular exercise under guidance of Physiotherapist. Cap. Artilon 2-0-2 Cap. Stresscom 1-0-1 Tab. Shatavari 2-0-2 Follow up after 4weeks.

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Hi Lakshmi this must be due to some degenerative changes / or early stages of Osteoarthritis

Take 1.Rasneirandadi kashayam 15ml + 45ml lukewarm water twice daily before food 2.Ostikot tab 2-0-2 after food 3.Yogarajaguggulu 1-0-1after food 4.Murivenna + Rhukot liniment for ext.application twice daily

*Avoid climbing stairs, Continues standing or even prolonged walking, these can aggravates your pain

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1.Amritadi/Punarnavadi Guggulu-2 tab. Before food with hot water

2.) Chopachini Churna-1gm Pippalimula churna-1½ gm Amalaki churna -1gm Gokshura churna-1 gm Shilajatu-250mg Guduchi Churna-1gm- after food with triphala kashaya 20 ml + 1 tsf honey

3.Cap. Seacod 2 - after food 2 Times with water

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Hello Lakshmi ji At age 51 years, with knee joint pain for 4–5 years, gait abnormality, and early menopause at 34 years, the problem is most likely Janu Sandhigata Vata (osteoarthritis of the knee) in Ayurvedic terms. Even though there is no redness, swelling, or crepitus, the pain and weakness suggest degeneration of cartilage and joint but dont worry we are here to help you out😊

✅Why It Happens

1. Post-menopausal bone weakness leads to estrogen decline - faster bone & joint degeneration. 2. Vata dosha aggravation with age - dryness, stiffness, and pain in joints. 3. Improper digestion & lifestyle - less nourishment to bones (Asthi dhatu). 4. Overuse / lack of exercise - weak muscles & joints.

✅AYURVEDIC PLAN OF TREATMENT

✅ INTERNAL MEDICATION

1 Dashamoolaristha 30ml-0-30ml after food – reduces pain and stiffness. 2 Mahayograj Guggulu 2-0-2 after food – relieves chronic joint pain. 3 Lakshadi Guggulu 2-0-2 – strengthens bones after menopause. 4 Ashwagandha capsule 2 at bed time – improves bone strength and reduces Vata.

✅ EXTERNAL THERAPIES ( need to be done in nearby panchakarma center )

1 Janu Basti (oil pooling on knee) with Kottamchukkadi Taila– excellent for lubrication and pain relief.

2 Janu upanaha ( medicated lepa and leaves bandage)

This Lepa (herbal paste): Mix dry ginger + castor root powder + warm water and apply to knee for pain relief you can do at home

✅HOME REMEDIES

1. Fenugreek (methi) seeds – soak overnight, chew in morning for joint lubrication.

2. Turmeric + milk – natural anti-inflammatory.

3. Garlic (lasun) – strengthens joints, prevents degeneration.

4. Castor oil 1 tsp at bedtime – mild laxative & Vata-pacifier, also relieves knee pain.

5. Warm ajwain seeds pack (heated and wrapped in cloth) – apply on knee for pain relief.

✅DIET AND LIFESTYLE

Include calcium & Vit D-rich foods: sesame seeds, ragi, milk, ghee, almonds, drumstick leaves.

Avoid dry, cold, stale foods that aggravate Vata.

Drink warm water, soups, bone broth for nourishment.

Avoid overexertion and sitting on low floors for long.

Your knee pain is chronic but manageable. With Ayurvedic internal medicines and external therapies (Janu Basti, oil massage), and home remedies (fenugreek, turmeric, garlic) along with a nourishing diet, you can expect reduced pain, better walking ability, and stronger knees.

Wishing you a good health😊

Warm Regards Dr Snehal Vidhate

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Don’t worry take maha yoga Raja Guggulu 1tab bd,vata vidwasini ras 1tab bd,rasna sapthaka kashyam 20ml bd,mahanarayana tail external application enough

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Yograj guggulu Peedantaka vati Twice daily after food with warm water Dashamoola aristha-4 teaspoon with the equal quantity of water twice daily after food Mahanarayana taila-gentle over knees Shatavari churna-half teaspoon with warm milk at night

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1.Yogaraj guggulu 2 tab twice daily after meals 2.Rasanadi kwath 20 ml with 20 ml water twice daily after meals 3.Shallaki tablets 2 tab twice daily after meals 4.Mahanarayan tail-massage warm oil twice followed by hot fomentation

Lifestyle & Diet Tips - Warm, nourishing meals: Include sesame, dates, ghee, and bone broth. - Avoid cold, dry, or raw foods—they aggravate Vata. - Gentle exercises: Chair squats, leg raises, heel slides, and bridge pose. - Sunlight exposure: 15 minutes daily for Vitamin D synthesis.

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Start with Yograj guggul 1-0-1 Mahavatvidhvansh vati 1-0-1 Maharasnadi ghanvati 1-0-1 After food with water Apply dhanvantrum oil on affected area twice daily Slowly as pain reduces start doing knee strengthening yogasana or exercises under the guidance of an expert. Wear knee cap during the day. Walk on straight surface.

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Avoid sour fermented foods

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For knee joint pain persisting over several years, especially given your history of early menopause, Ayurveda offers various holistic approaches. One primary consideration is balancing the doshas, particularly vata, which is often associated with joint issues.

First, focus on your diet to pacify vata. Incorporate warm, nourishing foods like soups, stews, and cooked vegetables. Favor sweet, sour, and salty tastes, which balance vata. Avoid drying foods and cold, raw foods. Sesame oil is particularly beneficial; use it in cooking and for gentle massage around the affected knee. You could also try consuming turmeric with warm milk daily, as turmeric acts as a natural anti-inflammatory.

Joint pain can be exacerbated by poor agni (digestive fire), affecting your digestion and metabolism. Enhance agni with ginger tea before meals or adding a squeeze of lemon to warm water in the morning.

Consider using Ayurvedic herbs like Ashwagandha or Guggulu. Both help in reducing inflammation and strengthening tissues. However, consult with an Ayurvedic practitioner before starting any new supplements.

Regular exercise is crucial, keep it low-impact to avoid further strain on your knee. Gentle yoga, swimming or walking can help strengthen muscles and improve flexibility without overburdening the joints.

Daily oil massage, abhyanga, using warm sesame or Mahanarayana oil can promote circulation and relief stiffness. Follow with a warm bath to aid muscle relaxation.

Stress and anxiety exacerbate joint issues. Implement relaxation techniques like meditation or breathing exercises.

It’s crucial to address any significant weight gain or imbalances, as they impose additional stress on your joints. Seek professional medical advice to rule out conditions like osteoporosis, especially since early menopause can affect bone health.

If pain persists or worsens, consult a healthcare provider to explore further diagnostic options.

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HELLO LAKSHMI,

You have had knee joint pain for 4-5 years with difficulty walking and lifting heavy weights. There is no swelling, redness, or crepitus (granting sound). You also had menopause at age 34, which is quite early. -After menopause, the hormones estrogen decreases, which weakens bones and joints -Over time, the cartilage (cushion in the joint) wears out. leading to stiffness and pain -In Ayurveda, this is called Sandhigata vata (degeneration of joints due to aggravated vata dosha and weakened bone tissue/ Asthi dhatu)

TREATMENT GOALS -reduce pain and stiffness -improve joint mobility and strength -nourish bones and cartilage -balance vata dosha -prevent further degeneration -improve quality of life- walking, daily work without pain

INTERNAL MEDICATIONS

1) MAHA YOGARAJ GUGGULU= 1 tab twice daily after meals with warm water for 3 months =relieves joint pain, balances vata

2) LAKSHADI GUGGULU= 1 tab twice daily with warm water for 3 months =strengthens bones, prevents osteoporosis

3) SHALLAKI EXTRACT CAPSULE= 1 cap twice daily after meals for 2-3 month =natural anti-inflammatory, reduces pain

4) ASHWAGANDHA CHURNA = 1 tsp with warm milk at night for 3. months =strenghtens muscles, reduce vata

5)DASHMOOLA KASHAYA= 20 ml + equal water twice daily before meals for 3 months =relieves stiffness and pain

6) GUDUCHI GHAN VATI= 1 tab twice daily after meals for 3 months =rejuvinates joints, improve immunity

EXTERNAL THERAPIES

1) OIL MASSAGE= with Mahanrayana taila daily for 15 minutes followed by warm bath

2) HOT FOMENTATION= apply a hot water bag or dry heat after oil massage daily

LIFESTYLE AND EXERCISE -Avoid cold exposure, sitting on floor for long, squatting, and lifting heavy weights -Use walking stick if needed for balance - prevent strain -Do low impact exercises like walking, cycling, and swimming (avoid running/jumping) -Sleep well minimum 7 hrs

YOGA ASANAS -tadasana = improves posture -Setu bandhasana= strengthens thighs and back -Bhujangasana= improves spine flexibility -Supta baddha konasana= relieves hip/knee stiffness -Pawanmuktasana= good for knee joint mobility

PRANAYAM -Anulom vilom= balances vata -Bhramari= reduces stress and improves pain tolerance -Deep diaphragmatic breathing - improves oxygen flow

DIET -warm, fresh cooked, nourishing food -milk, ghee, buttermilk (digestible, not heavy curd at night) -Sesame seeds, almonds, walnuts, figs, dates (strengthen bones) -Turmeric + milk at night -Green leafy vegetables, carrots, drumstick, bottle gourd

AVOID -cold, dry, stale , frozen , fermented, sour foods -Excess pulses like green gram, chickpeas in excess -Excess tea/coffee, packaged snacks, junk food

HOME REMEDIES -massage knees daily -take 1 tsp turmeric + pinch of black pepper in warm milk at night -Fenugreek seeds= soak overnight, eat in morning strengthens joints -Dry ginger with warm water for vata pain relief

INVESTIGATIONS NEEDED -X-RAY of knee joint= to check cartilage and bone changes -Bone mineral densityi= to check otseoporosis -Blood test =calcium , vitamin d, serum uric acid

-Your knee pain is most likely Sandhigata vata (degenerative arthritis/osteoporosis) due to early menopause and vata imbalance -Ayurveda offers holistic management- internal medicines, external therapies, diet and lifestyle changes -The treatment goal is not only pain relief but also to strengthen bones, nourish joints, and slow degeneration -With 3-6 months of consistent ayurvedic treatment + lifestyle modifications, you should see improvement in pain, mobility, and quality of life

DO FOLLOW

HOPE THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL

THANK YOU

DR. MAITRI ACHARYA

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Lakshmi’s guggulu= 1 tab twice daily after meals

Mahayogaraj guggulu= 1 tab twice daily after meals

Ashwagandha capsules = 1 tab twice daily with warm milk

Rasna Saptaka kashaya = 15 ml with warm water after meals

Externally apply Murivenna + pinda taila daily warm

Followed by warm water bath

Knee strengthening exercises after pain reduces Wear knee cap daily

Thank you

Dr Hemanshu Mehta

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For addressing your long-standing knee pain concern, it’s vital to consider both the symptoms and individual health factors at play, particularly the early menopause. The imbalance in your Vata dosha might be contributing to joint dryness and discomfort. Here’s a tailored plan based on Siddha-Ayurvedic approaches which emphasizes managing this imbalance along with your overall well-being:

1. Dietary Adjustments: Focus on a Vata-pacifying diet to support joint health. Including warm, nourishing foods such as soups and stews can be beneficial. Ensure to include good fats like ghee and sesame oil, which help in lubricating the joints. Avoid cold foods and drinks which can aggravate Vata.

2. Herbal Support: Consider taking Ashwagandha and Guggulu, known for their overall strengthening and joint-supporting properties. They can be taken in powdered form mixed with warm water twice daily. Start with a small dose and consult with a practitioner for dosages suited to your constitution.

3. External Therapies: Performing regular Abhyanga (oil massage) with warn medicated oils such as Mahanarayana tailor sesame oil can reduce joint stiffness. Apply it with gentle strokes in the direction of hair growth and let the oil sit for about 15-20 minutes before bathing.

4. Improving Mobility: Gentle Yoga postures like Sukhasana and gentle leg stretches can be practised daily to enhance flexibility without straining your joints.

5. Lifestyle Changes: Adequate rest is crucial. Avoid over-exerting the joint and prioritize regular, moderate exercise. Warm baths with Epsom salts can also offer relief.

6. Menopause Consideration: Early menopause may have affected your bone health, thus incorporating Ragi (finger millet) and sesame seeds in your diet can provide necessary calcium.

If your symptoms persist, it’s important to consult with a healthcare professional for an integrative approach. Remember, consistency is key in these practices. Always make sure these changes fit well within your daily lifestyle and medical considerations.

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