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Question #38852
104 days ago
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Pain After Taking She Care for Missed Periods - #38852

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I took she care because of missed periods from past 2 month but after 4 days I am getting pain in my stomach which is sometimes unbearable at night. How do I treat this?

How long have you been experiencing stomach pain after taking She Care?:

- Less than 1 week

Can you describe the nature of the pain?:

- Cramping

Have you noticed any other symptoms along with the stomach pain?:

- Nausea or vomiting
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Hello I understand your concern — experiencing cramping abdominal pain and nausea after taking She Care for delayed periods can be quite distressing. But don’t worry we are here to help you out 🙂

“She Care” is a uterine stimulant that helps regulate delayed menstruation by balancing Apana Vata and clearing Aartava Dushti (obstruction in menstrual flow).

✅Immediate Steps

1. Stop taking She Care for now. The abdominal pain suggests overstimulation of the uterus or mild gastric irritation.

2. Do NOT take any other uterine stimulant (like Kumaryasava, Raja Pravartini Vati, etc.) until pain subsides.

3. If pain is severe or persistent, or if there’s bleeding, fever, or vomiting, please visit a nearby gynecologist to rule out complications like pelvic infection or gastritis.

AYURVEDIC RELIEF PLAN

✅ Internal Remedies (for 5–7 days)

1. Sootshekhar Rasa – 1 tablet twice daily after food (Relieves burning, nausea, and abdominal cramps caused by excess Pitta.)

2. Hingwashtak Churna – ½ tsp with warm water before food (Relieves gas, bloating, and Vata-induced cramping.)

3. Dashamoolaristha – 20 ml with equal warm water twice daily after food (Soothes uterine inflammation and balances Apana Vata.)

✅ HOME REMEDIES

Take lukewarm water frequently; avoid cold water or heavy meals. Apply castor oil or warm sesame oil over the lower abdomen for 10–15 minutes daily. Drink fennel (saunf) or ajwain tea after meals to relieve gas and spasms.

✅DIET MODIFICATION

✅ Include: Light, cooked foods: rice gruel (kanji), moong dal soup, bottle gourd, ridge gourd. Warm water with a pinch of cumin or coriander.

❌ Avoid

Spicy, sour, fried, or acidic foods. Tea, coffee, and packaged uterine tonics for now.

✅LIFESTYLE TIPS

Rest adequately and avoid physical strain or stress. Gentle abdominal heat (hot water bag) helps relax uterine muscles. Avoid suppressing natural urges (urine, stools) — they aggravate Vata.

✅ONCE PAIN SUBSIDES

After 7–10 days, if menstruation is still delayed, we can start mild uterine-balancing herbs like: Kumaryasava (10 ml twice daily after food) Phala Ghrita (1 tsp with warm milk in morning)

These act gently and prevent recurrence without causing cramping.

Wishing you a good health🙂

Please visit a nearby gynecologist if the pain persists or you experience vomiting or bleeding.

Warm regards, Dr Snehal Vidhate

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1.Rajahpravartini vati 2 tab twice daily with water after meals 2.Shatavari Kalpa 1 tsp twice daily with warm milk after meals 3.Kumaryasava 20 ml with 20 ml water twice daily after meals 4.Hingwashtak churna 1/2 tsp with warm water just before meals twice daily

Supportive Practices - Warm castor oil massage on lower abdomen at night - Steam inhalation with ajwain or tulsi to relieve nausea - Avoid cold, heavy, or spicy foods—favor warm, light meals - Gentle yoga poses like Apanasana and Supta Baddha Konasana

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If any medicine does not agree and causes problems, better to stop it. Start with Rajapravartini vati 1-0-1 after food with water for getting periods M2TONE 1-0-1 after food with water for regularising your periods. Hingvastak churan 1tsp with buttermilk after lunch daily Take mahashankha vati 1-0-1 after food with water., This will help reduce your pain.

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Maha Shanka vati 1tab bd , abhayarista 20ml bd, udaramritham 20ml bd enough

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Thank you for sharing this The abdominal pain you are experiencing after taking age care is likely due to internal hormonal shifts or mild uterine contractions as the body tries to regularise your cycle This kind of discomfort can also happen when there is underlying congestion or imbalance in digestion or pelvic circulation For now stop taking age care until the pain subsides Take CCF tea Avoid cold foods Curd heavy meals stay well hydrated take Avipattikara churna 1/2 tsp with water before meals Once the pain reduces start Asoka aristha 15 ml with equal quantity of water twice daily after food If the pain becomes persistent or severe or if there is unusual bleeding then get a pelvic scan to rule out any other causes

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She care juice is used to manage irregular periods supports harmonal balance metabolism and skin and hair health The ingredients which are present are safe n it doesn’t cause any side effects usually But exactly where the pain is if you mention it would be easy to advise you further For now stop that juice N if possible once get ultra sound scan

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HELLO,

YOU MENTIONED -missed periods for 2 months -took She care to Bring your period -After 4 days-cramping stomach pain, especially at night, sometimes unbearable -nausea or vomiting

WHAT IS HAPPENING -“SHE CARE” is an ayurvedic uterine stimulant, It contain herbs like Ashoka, Lodhra ,Dashmoola, Shatavari,hing, and aloe era -These herbs work by stimulating your uterus and activating the menstrual flow- but if your digestion or vata-pitta balance is disturbed, the stimulation can be too strong

As a result -uterine contraction increase-> causing cramps and pain -pitta aggravation in the stomach->leads to nausea and burning -vata imbalance-> worsens pain and disturbs the menstrual rhythm further

In Ayurveda, this condition is seen as an aggravation of Apana vata (the downward energy that controls menstruation, urination, and elimination) combined with pitta irritation in the uterus and intestines

TREATMENT GOALS -pacify aggravated vata and pitta doshas-> to relieve pain, nausea, and restore balance -strengthen digestion -regulate the menstrual cycle naturally-> without overstimulation -rebuild uterine and hormonal balance -prevent recurrence

INTERNAL MEDICATIONS

1) FOR ACUTE PAIN AND NAUSEA (first 7 days)

-AJWAIN-JEERA-SAUNF TEA= 1/2 tsp each boiled in 2 cups water-> reduce to 1 cup= 1 cup warm twice daily after meals =relieves gas, improves digestion, reduces uterine cramps

-HINGWASTAKA CHURNA= 1/4 tsp with warm water before meals =reduces vata and gas, relieves cramping

-CASTOR OIL= 1 tsp with warm milk at bedtime once a week = softens vata, relieves spasm and promote downward flow gently

STOP “SHE CARE” TEMPORARILY

2) FOR MENSTRUAL REGULATION (AFTER PAIN SUBSIDES) Once acute pain settles, begin mild cycle- regulating and uterine toning remedies

-ASHOKARISHTA= 15 ml with warm water twice dealt after meals for 2 months = strengthens uterus, balances pitta and vata, regulates bleeding

-SHATAVARI CHURNA= 1 tsp with warm milk twice daily for 2 months =norishes female hormones, improves fertility, and cycle regularity

-DASHMOOLA KASHAYA= 20 ml twice daily with warm waterr before meals = relieves chronic uterine pain, pacifies vata

EXTERNAL APPLICATIONS

1) HOT WATER BAG/ WARM CASTOR OIL COMPRESS= apply on lower abdomen for 15 min nightly =reduces pain, relaxes uterus

2) OIL MASSAGE= use warm sesame oil on lower back ad abdomen before bath =Balances Vata, improves circulation

LIFESTYLE -keep regular meal and sleep timing -sleep by 10 pm to allow hormonal regulation -take warm baths -practice stress management - meditation, journaling, gentle walks -use heating pad when cramping

DON’TS -avoid cold food and drinks- cold milk, yogurt, ice water -avoid fasting or skipping meals -avoid excessive exercise or late nights -do not self medicate with strong uterine stimulants

DIET

GRAINS= warm rice, wheat porridge, moong dal khichdi AVOID= refined flour, cold salads

VEGETABLES= bottle gourd, ridge gourd, pumpkin, drumstick AVOID= cauliflower, cabbage, potatoes gas forming

FRUITS= ripe banana, papaya, pomegranate, dates AVOID=citrus fruits, sour berries

DAIRY= warm milk with pinch of turmeric or nutmeg AVOID=cold milk, curd, cheese

SPICES=cumin, fennel, coriander, hing, turmeric AVOID= excess chilli, vinegar, tamarind

HYDRATION= warm water or herbal teas- ajwain,fennel, coriander Avoid caffeine and aerated drinks

YOGA AND PRANAYAM -suptabaddha konasana= opens pelvic area, relieves cramps -balasana= relaxes lower abdomen -apanasana= aids downward low of apana vata -anulom vilom= balances hormones, calms mind -bhramari= reduces stress and anxiety linked to delayed menses

HOME REMEDIES -Ginger tea with honey- relieves nausea and improves circulation -Warm sesame oil massage on abdomen daily -Papaya and turmeric milk = supports menstrual regularity -Fenugreek seed tea= 1 tsp seeds boiled I 1cup water, drink warm to reduce cramps

Your symptoms show a temporary imbalance caused by strong uterine stimulation and aggravated vata pitta -With gentle Ayurvedic management- focusing on restoring balance rather than forcing bleeding- the body can recover naturally -Ayurveda emphasizes patience and consistency- improvement may take 1-2 months but results are deep and sustainable -iF pain becomes unbearable or accompanied by heavy bleeding, fever, or fainting- visit a Gynecologist immediately

DO FOLLOW

HOPE THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL

THANK YOU

DR. MAITRI ACHARYA

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Your experience of stomach pain after taking She Care for missed periods could be indicative of several factors including indigestion or a possible reaction to the ingredients. While She Care is marketed as a herbal supplement, it’s important to acknowledge that each individual’s body may react differently.

Firstly, ensure that this pain is not a symptom of any serious condition. If the pain persists or worsens, especially if it’s unbearable, it is advisable to seek immediate medical attention to rule out any acute conditions. Ayurveda values the balance of doshas, and it’s possible that the supplement may have aggravated underlying dosha imbalances, particularly if your digestive system is sensitive.

For immediate relief from stomach pain, you can try some gentle Ayurvedic approaches. Ginger tea might be helpful as it aids in digestion and can reduce pain due to bloating or indigestion. Simply, boil a few slices of fresh ginger in water and sip it warm.

Avoid foods that are heavy, oily, or too spicy as they might increase the digestive fire (agni) excessively, leading to discomfort. Stick to easily digestible foods — such as warm soups, softly cooked rice, or mung dal khichdi — during this phase.

Pebble warm water alternated with rest is beneficial. Apply a heat compress on your abdomen or take a warm bath to soothe the muscles. Turmeric with warm milk can also soothe inflammation and help alleviate pain.

In the longer term, addressing any potential vata imbalances might be needed since vata is often associated with issues related to pain and movement. Incorporate routine practices like regular meals, adequate hydration, gentle yoga or stretching exercises adapted to your comfort level, and sufficient sleep.

Always prioritize safety and professional medical consultation above all Ayurvedic remedies if there’s any escalation in symptoms.

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Experiencing stomach pain after taking a remedy for missed periods suggests that your body might be reacting to the formulation. It’s important first to consider if there may be a deeper imbalance or underlying issue associated with your menstrual health. In the framework of Siddha-Ayurvedic understanding, missed periods could be linked to an imbalance in the Vata and Pitta doshas, which govern respectively movement and transformative mechanisms in your body.

It’s crucial to be cautious with formulations like She Care. If the pain is severe, it may be wise to consult a healthcare professional immediately to rule out complications rather than solely rely on home remedies. If the situation is not urgent but uncomfortable, there are steps you can take to soothe your system. Start by focusing on your diet; emphasize warm, cooked meals that are light and easy to digest to help balance Vata and Pitta. Incorporate foods like warm milk with a pinch of turmeric, which is warming and anti-inflammatory.

Drinking ginger tea can also be soothing. Ginger has properties that can aid digestion and reduce spasmodic pain; prepare it by boiling a few slices in water for 10 minutes. Include cumin and coriander in your cooking — these spices are known to aid digestion and support menstrual health. Additionally, practice gentle yoga or stretching in the evening to promote relaxation. If the pain persists, and especially if accompanied by fever or unusual symptoms, don’t delay in seeking further medical attention. Comfort and health should be the priority, particularly if severe discomfort continues.

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I am someone who believes Ayurveda isn’t just some old system — it’s alive, and actually still works when you use it the way it's meant to be used. My practice mostly revolves around proper Ayurvedic diagnosis (rogi & roga pariksha types), Panchakarma therapies, and ya also a lot of work with herbal medicine — not just prescribing but sometimes preparing stuff myself when needed. I really like that hands-on part actually, like knowing where the herbs came from and how they're processed... changes everything. One of the things I pay a lot of attention to is how a person's lifestyle is playing into their condition. Food, sleep, bowel habits, even small emotional patterns that people don't even realize are affecting their digestion or immunity — I look at all of it before jumping to treatment. Dietary therapy isn’t just telling people to eat less fried food lol. It’s more about timing, combinations, seasonal influence, and what suits their prakriti. That kind of detail takes time, and sometimes patients don’t get why it matters at first.. but slowly it clicks. Panchakarma — I do it when I feel it's needed. Doesn’t suit everyone all the time, but in the right case, it really clears the stuck layers. But again, it's not magic — people need to prep properly and follow instructions. That's where strong communication matters. I make it a point to explain everything without dumping too much Sanskrit unless they’re curious. I also try to keep things simple, like I don’t want patients feeling intimidated or overwhelmed with 10 things at once. We go step by step — sometimes slow, sometimes quick depending on the case. There’s no “one protocol fits all” in Ayurveda and frankly I get bored doing same thing again and again. Whether it’s a fever that won’t go or long-term fatigue or gut mess — I usually go deep into what's behind it. Surface-level fixes don’t last. I rather take the time than rush into wrong herbs. It’s more work, ya, but makes a diff in long run.
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I am an Ayurvedic doctor trying to bring the old wisdom of chikitsa into daily life, even if sometime I feel I am still learning new things every single day.. I work mostly with the classical principles, the ones I studied again n agin during my training, and I try to see how they fit with each patient’s prakriti and the tiny details of their health story. I am often thinking how Ayurveda doesn’t rush anything, it asks for understanding of the roga and even the rogi in a deeper way, and I keep that in mind when someone walks in and tell me their concerns. Some cases are simple, some not really, but I do my best to look at the ahara, vihara, dosha pattern and even the habits they don’t notice at first. Sometimes I get a bit caught up in analysing too many factors at once, or typing notes too fas and mixing commas,, but at the core I focus on using authentic Ayurvedic approaches—herbal formulations, routine correction, panchkarma suggestions where needed—and I try to guide people gently without overwhelming them. I am also aware that many patients come with doubts or half-heard ideas about Ayurveda, and I try to clear those without sounding too “doctorly,” just explaining what makes sense for their body. I want them to feel they can trust the process, even if progress take time or feel slow on some days. I am still growing in this field, and every person who comes to me reminds me why I chose Ayurveda in the first place: clarity, balance, and healing that respects the person as a whole. There are moments where I wish I had more hours in a day to study more granthas or revise a chapter I skipped, but I stay committed to giving care that is genuine, thoughtful and rooted in traditional practice—even if the journey gets a bit messy here n there !!
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