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Persistent Pain and Cramping After Anuvasana Basti for Lumbar Stenosis
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Persistent Pain and Cramping After Anuvasana Basti for Lumbar Stenosis - #45999

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Lumbar stenosis and done anuvasana basti 2 months over still pain is there while walking nor little cramping in calves during exercise

How would you describe the severity of your pain?:

- Moderate

Have you noticed any specific triggers for your pain or cramping?:

- Exercise

What is your current level of physical activity?:

- Regular intense exercise
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Hello, I am understanding that, the pain you are referring is the pain due to lumbar stenosis and suggesting the following medicines for the same for 90 days. Please let me know once you complete 85 days, about the results": 1. LUMBATON PLUS SOFEGEL CAPSULES 2----0----2 after breakfast and after dinner with medicine no.2. 2. SAHACHARADI KASHAYAM 20ML----0-----20ML by adding 80ml of boiled cooled water 45 minutes after breakfast and 45 minutes after dinner. 3. RASNAIRANDADI KASHAYAM 20ml—0-----20ml by adding 80 ml of boiled cooled water 45 minutes before breakfast and 45 minutes before dinner. 4. YOAGARAJA GUGGULU DS(avn) 1—0----1 with medicine no.3 5. Murivenna+sahacharadi thailam to be applied luke warm from lower back till toes 40 minutes before hot shower Take care, Kind regards.

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Lumbar spinal stenosis is the narrowing of the spinal canal and compressing the nerves travelling through the lower back into the legs. Anuvasana Basti supports lubrication and Vata balance, but it cannot reverse mechanical nerve compression caused by lumbar stenosis. It is a supportive treatment.

- Avoid intense exercise, it may trigger symptoms. - You can focus on slow movement exercises like yoga - Knee to chest exercise, Pelvic tilts, gentle hamstring and calf muscle stretching exercise

Continue some internal medicine for 2 weeks and follow up. 1. Gandharvahasthadi kashaya 15ml + 45ml lukewarm water at morning. 2. Sahacharadi mezhupaka 5 drops along with kashaya 3. Stifain tab 0-0-1 after food. 4. Sahacharadi tailam for external application

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Thank you for contacting ask Ayurveda.

Based on what you have described, you are suffering from lumbar spinal stenosis, with moderate pain while walking and mild cramping in the calves during exercise, even after completing Anuvasana Basti two months back. This situation is actually quite common in chronic spine and nerve related problems. So first thing, please do not panic. This is not unusual.

In ayurveda this condition is classified under Katigata Vata, with clear features of Avarana of Vata . In lumbar stenosis, there is structural narrowing in the spinal canal. Because of this, nerves get compressed. Thus is a degenerative Vata disorder, where dryness, degeneration, weakness, and obstruction are happening together. Not just one factor.

Anuvasana Basti mainly provides Sneha, meaning oiliness and nourishment, to aggravated Vata. It is a very good therapy. No doubt. But in conditions like lumbar stenosis, only Anuvasana basti is usually not sufficient.

Because here problem is not only dryness. There is also blockage. There is inflammation. And there is nerve compression.

So when only oil basti is given: Some lubrication happens Some stiffness may reduce Patient may feel temporary relief

That is the reason why pain while walking is still present, and why calf muscles start cramping during exercise. This does not mean treatment has failed. Not at all. It simply means treatment was incomplete or not fully matched to the depth of disease.

Importance of Niruha / Yoga Basti

In your case, Niruha Basti (decoction enema) is very important. This is not optional. Niruha basti helps in: Removing deep-seated obstruction Reducing inflammation around compressed nerves Improving nerve conduction Allowing Vata to move in proper and natural direction

For chronic lumbar stenosis, best and stable results are seen with: Yoga Basti, or Kala Basti protocol

This combination gives both cleansing and nourishment. Only oil without cleansing will not work here. Without Niruha basti, Anuvasana alone cannot give full relief, especially when walking pain is a major symptom.

Walking pain and calf cramping – what it actually indicates

Pain that increases during walking and exercise is a very typical sign of Vata prakopa with nerve compression. Calf cramping indicates: Vata affecting Mamsa and Snayu dhatu Reduced nerve and blood supply during exertion Muscles being pushed beyond their current capacity

Your body is clearly giving signal to slow down. But intense exercise is continuing. So Vata keeps getting aggravated again and again. Medicine tries to calm it. Exercise again disturbs it. So relief becomes slow.

You mentioned you are doing regular intense exercise. Honestly speaking, this is one of the main reasons pain is persisting. I have to be clear here.

In lumbar stenosis: High impact exercise Long walking Treadmill walking Excess stretching Twisting movements Forward bending

All these will increase nerve irritation, even if medicines are perfect.

Exercise is important, yes. But wrong exercise is harmful.

For now: Stop intense workouts Do only short, gentle walks Avoid long-distance walking • Avoid bending and twisting movements Swimming is allowed if comfortable Gentle physiotherapy or yoga only under proper guidance

Panchakarma Yoga Basti course (Anuvasana + Niruha in proper sequence) • Kati Basti with Sahacharadi taila or Mahanarayana taila • Regular Abhyanga followed by mild Swedana

These therapies help in relaxing deep muscles, reducing stiffness around lumbar spine, and improving nerve circulation.

Internal Medicines - You may consider the following medicines: Sahacharadi Kashayam – 15 ml twice daily before food with warm water Helpful for nerve pain, lower limb pain, difficulty in walking. Rasna Saptakam Kashayam – 15 ml twice daily Helps reduce inflammation and stiffness. Yogaraja Guggulu – 1 tablet twice daily after food Useful in chronic Vata disorders and spine related degeneration. Ashwagandha Churna – ½ teaspoon at night with warm milk

Diet and lifestyle Warm, freshly cooked food Slightly oily food is beneficial Avoid dry, cold, refrigerated food Avoid fasting and irregular eating Avoid excess tea and coffee

Drink warm water in small sips through the day.

Sleep should be proper. Late nights will worsen Vata. Cold exposure, direct AC air on body, sleeping on cold floors – avoid all these.

Lumbar stenosis is not an acute condition. It is chronic and degenerative.

Relief is: Slow Gradual But steady if treatment is done correctly Generally,Pain reduction starts after 3–4 weeks of proper basti and medicines Walking tolerance improves gradually Full recovery takes few days to months ….

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Dr prasad

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Hello ​‍​‌‍​‍‌​‍​‌‍​‍‌I can understand your worry.Such kind of situation can be really disappointing. Lumbar spinal stenosis with persistent pain and calf cramping even after Anuvasana Basti can be really annoying especially when it makes it impossible to go for a walk or do your regular exercise. But it is alright as we are still with you to sort your problem out.

YOUR CONCERN

Lumbar spinal stenosis Anuvasana Basti done (approximately 2 months ago) Pain on walking still persists During exercise mild cramping in calf muscles Pain aggravated by physical activity Activity level: Regular intense exercise

AYURVEDIC UNDERSTANDING

According to Ayurveda, lumbar stenosis corresponds to Katigata Vata / Gridhrasi-like condition, where:

Vata dosha is very imbalanced in: –Asthi (bone) –Majja (nerve tissue) –Snayu (ligaments)

Long-term pressure leads to: –Rukshata (dryness) –Sankocha (tightness) –Margavarodha (obstruction in nerve pathways)

👉 Anuvasana Basti mainly brings lubrication and nourishment, however, in deep-rooted or structural cases, Anuvasana only is rarely enough.

WHY IS PAIN STILL THERE AFTER ANUVASANA BASTI?

👉 CHRONICITY OF DIESEASE

One of the major problems is chronicality of the disease If stenosis has been there for several years and Vata is very deeply lodged Only one Anuvasana basti treatment can bring only partial relief, not complete remission

👉COMBINED BASTI The work of Anuvasana Basti will be more effective if there is a Niruha (Asthapana) Basti – to release the obstructed Vata Removal of obstruction is necessary for oil to be able to give relief completely Without the combination Niruha Basti, Anuvasana Basti cannot achieve full relief.

👉EXCESSIVE EXERCISE

Excess or Intense Exercise Very intense exercise will definitely make Vata worse As a result, calf muscle cramps may appear due to: -Vata caused nerve irritation -Muscle ischemia and dryness

👉 In stenosis, if you push yourself too hard with the exercises, your symptoms will get worse, even though the exercise is generally good for you.

WHAT SHOULD BE DONE NOW (STEP-BY-STEP)

✅ PANCHAKARMA MODIFICATION You may take a Kala Basti or Yoga Basti Combination of Anuvasana + Niruha basti Or Ksheera Basti (milk-based basti) if degeneration is predominant

⚠️ All the procedures should be carried out under a very professional and experienced Panchakarma physician.

✅ INTERNAL MEDICATION

1.Yograj Guggulu – 1-0-1 after food for Vata-kapha obstruction 2.palsineuron 1-0-1 after food – nerve & muscle strength 3.Lumbatone plus 1-0-1 after food

✅ EXTERNAL THERAPIES

Kati Basti with Sahacharadi / Kottamchukkadi Taila is very useful Patra Pinda Sweda (herbal bolus fomentation) Soft Abhyanga followed by gentle swedana

✅EXERCISE MODIFICATION (VERY IMPORTANT)

❌ AVOID Intense workouts Long walks without breaks Forward bending, jumping, weight lifting

✅ DO

Short and slow walks Light stretching Exercises in the supine position Yoga (very gentle and under guidance)

👉 If there is pain during exercise, you should stop doing it, not continue further.

✅DIETARY SUPPORT

INCLUDE Warm, cooked food Ghee (small daily quantity) Milk with turmeric (if digestion allows) Soups, stews

AVOID Dry foods Cold foods/drinks Excess fasting Raw salads at night

WHEN TO EXPECT IMPROVEMENT

Pain reduction: 4–6 weeks after proper combined therapy Walking tolerance improves gradually Calf cramps reduce as Vata normalizes

You cannot “heal” structural stenosis in a matter of days, however, pain, cramps, and general wellbeing can be greatly improved with the right Ayurvedic treatment.

–Anuvasana basti alone is not enough for lumbar stenosis –Combined basti + lifestyle correction is essential –Do not over-exercise as it will only delay healing –Regular, gentle therapy is the best long-term solution

Warm regards, Dr Snehal ​‍​‌‍​‍‌​‍​‌‍​‍‌Vidhate

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I am working right now as a Consultant Ayurvedic Ano-Rectal Surgeon at Bhrigu Maharishi Ayurvedic Hospital in Nalgonda—and yeah, that name’s quite something, but what really keeps me here is the kind of cases we get. My main focus is managing ano-rectal disorders like piles (Arsha), fistula-in-ano (Bhagandara), fissure-in-ano (Parikartika), pilonidal sinus, and rectal polyps. These are often more complex than they look at first, and they get misdiagnosed or overtreated in a lotta places. That’s where our classical tools come in—Ksharasutra therapy, Agnikarma, and a few other para-surgical techniques we follow from the Samhitas...they’ve been lifesavers honestly. My work here pushes me to keep refining surgical precision while also sticking to the Ayurvedic core. I do rely on modern diagnostics when needed, but I won’t replace the value of a well-done Nadi Pariksha or assessing dosha-vikruti in depth. Most of my patients come with pain, fear, and usually after a couple of rounds of either incomplete surgeries or just being fed painkillers n antibiotics. And I totally get that frustration. That’s why I combine surgery with a whole support plan—Ayurvedic meds, diet changes, lifestyle tweaks that actually match their prakriti. Not generic stuff off a handout. Over time, I’ve seen that when people follow the whole protocol, not just the procedure part, the recurrence drops a lot. I’m quite particular about follow-up and wound care too, ‘cause we’re dealing with delicate areas here and ignoring post-op can ruin outcomes. Oh and yeah—I care a lot about educating folks too. I talk to patients in OPD, sometimes give community talks, just to tell people they do have safer options than cutting everything out under GA! I still study Shalya Tantra like it’s a living document. I try to stay updated with whatever credible advancements are happening in Ayurvedic surgery, but I filter what’s fluff and what’s actually useful. At the end of the day, my aim is to offer respectful, outcome-based care that lets patients walk out without shame or fear. That’s really what keeps me grounded in this field.
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Dr. Shaniba P
I am an Ayurvedic doctor, someone who’s pretty much built her clinical journey around natural healing, balance and yeah—just trying to help ppl feel a bit more whole again. I work mostly with conditions that kinda stay with people... like joint pain that won’t go away, periods all over the place, kids falling sick again n again, or just the kind of stress that messes up digestion n sleep n everything in between. A lot of my practice circles around arthritis, lower back pain, PCOD-ish symptoms, antenatal care, immunity problems in kids, and those quiet mental health imbalances ppl often don't talk much about. My approach isn’t just pulling herbs off a shelf and calling it a day. I spend time with classical diagnosis—checking Prakriti, figuring out doshas, seeing how much of this is physical and how much is coming from daily routine or emotional burnout. And treatments? Usually a mix of traditional Ayurvedic meds, Panchakarma (only if needed!!), changing food habits, tweaking the daily rhythm, and honestly... just slowing down sometimes. I’m also really into helping ppl understand themselves better—like once someone gets how their body is wired, things make more sense. I talk to patients about what actually suits their dosha, what throws them off balance, and how they can stop chasing quick fixes that don’t stick. Education's a big part of it. And yes, I’ve had patients walk in for constant cold and walk out realizing it’s more about weak agni n poor gut routines than just low immunity. Every case’s diff. Some are simple. Some not. But whether it’s a young woman trying to fix her cycles without hormones or a 6-year-old catching colds every week, I try building plans that last—not just short term relief stuff. Healing takes time and needs trust from both sides. End of the day, I try to keep it rooted—classical where it matters but flexible enough to blend with the world we're livin in rn. That balance is tricky, but worth it.
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Dr. Karthika
I am currently a PG 2nd yr student in the dept of Shalakya Tantra at Parul Institute of Ayurveda and Research, batch 2024. I joined right after UG—no break—straight into PG (regular batch). I did my undergrad from Rajiv Gandhi Ayurveda Medical College (2017 batch, CCRAS syllabus under Pondicherry Univ). Somehow managed to secure 2nd rank university-wide back then, which I didn’t totally expect. Right now, my core interest lies in the Ayurvedic and integrative management of eye disorders. I’ve got decent exposure to both classical texts and clinical practice. From anatomy to pathology, I try to stay grounded in both the traditional Ayurvedic view and also the modern opthalmic understanding, especially with conditions related to the cornea, retina, and anterior segment. During PG deputation in 2nd year, I handled like 200+ OPD patients daily within 1–2 hrs (felt crazy at first but got used to the pace). I’m also trained hands-on in cataract and cornea surgeries under supervision. Not calling myself a surgeon yet, but I did get a good amout of surgical exposure in the PG postings. In terms of academics, I got 82% in the first-year PG exams—distinction score—secured department 1st and university topper at Parul Institute. Sometimes I do wonder if all this speed actually lets me go deep into each case but I’m learning to balance efficiency with proper patient care. Honestly I think that’s the biggest challenge in clinical ayurveda today—staying rooted in shastra while also being practically useful in today's overloaded OPDs. Anyway, still got a lot to learn, but I try to show up with clarity, humility and the will to keep improving every day.
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Dr. Surya Bhagwati
I am a Senior Ayurveda Physician with more than 28 years in this field — and trust me, it still surprises me how much there is to learn every single day. Over these years, I’ve had the chance to treat over 1 lakh patients (probably more by now honestly), both through in-person consults and online. Some come in with a mild cough, others with conditions no one’s been able to figure out for years. Each case brings its own rhythm, and that’s where real Ayurveda begins. I still rely deeply on classical tools — *Nadi Pariksha*, *Roga-Rogi Pariksha*, proper *prakriti-vikriti* mapping — not just ticking symptoms into a list. I don’t believe in ready-made cures or generic charts. Diagnosis needs attention. I look at how the disease behaves *inside* that specific person, which doshas are triggering what, and where the imbalance actually started (hint: it’s usually not where the pain is). Over the years I’ve worked with pretty much all age groups and all kinds of health challenges — from digestive upsets & fevers to chronic, autoimmune, hormonal, metabolic and degenerative disorders. Arthritis, diabetes, PCOD, asthma, thyroid... but also things like unexplained fatigue or joint swelling that comes and goes randomly. Many of my patients had already “tried everything else” before they walked into Ayurveda, and watching their systems respond slowly—but surely—is something I don’t take lightly. My line of treatment usually combines herbal formulations (classical ones, not trendy ones), Panchakarma detox when needed, and realistic dietary and lifestyle corrections. Long-term healing needs long-term clarity — not just short bursts of symptom relief. And honestly, I tell patients that too. I also believe patient education isn’t optional. I explain things. Why we’re doing virechana, why the oil changed mid-protocol, why we pause or shift the meds after a few weeks. I want people to feel involved, not confused. Ayurveda works best when the patient is part of the process, not just receiving instructions. Even now I keep learning — through texts, talks, patient follow-ups, sometimes even mistakes that taught me what not to do. And I’m still committed, still fully into it. Because for me, this isn’t just a job. It’s a lifelong responsibility — to restore balance, protect *ojas*, and help each person live in tune with themselves. That’s the real goal.
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Dr. Kirankumari Rathod
I am someone who kinda grew into Panchakarma without planning it much at first... just knew I wanted to understand the deeper layers of Ayurveda, not just the surface stuff. I did both my graduation and post-grad from Govt. Ayurveda Medical College & Hospital in Bangalore — honestly that place shaped a lot of how I think about healing, especially long-term healing. After my PG, I started working right away as an Assistant Professor & consultant in the Panchakarma dept at a private Ayurveda college. Teaching kinda made me realise how much we ourselves learn by explaining things to others... and watching patients go through their detox journeys—real raw healing—was where I got hooked. Now, with around 6 years of clinical exp in Panchakarma practice, I'm working as an Associate Professor, still in the same dept., still learning, still teaching. I focus a lot on individualised protocols—Ayurveda isn't one-size-fits-all and honestly, that’s what makes it tricky but also beautiful. Right now I’m also doing my PhD, it’s on female infertility—a topic I feel not just academically drawn to but personally invested in, cause I see how complex and layered it gets for many women. Managing that along with academics and patient care isn’t super easy, I won’t lie, but it kinda fuels each other. The classroom work helps my clinical thinking, and my clinical work makes me question things in research more sharply. There's a lot I still wanna explore—especially in how we explain Panchakarma better to newer patients. Many people still think it's just oil massage or some spa thing but the depth is wayyy beyond that. I guess I keep hoping to make that clarity come through—whether it’s in class or during a consult or even during a quick OPD chat.
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Really appreciate the detailed response! Clear & thorough. Your guidance on combining therapies was super helpful and reassuring for us. Thanks!
Really appreciate the detailed response! Clear & thorough. Your guidance on combining therapies was super helpful and reassuring for us. Thanks!
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