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How to know if my Ayurvedic treatment for IBS and gallstone is effective?
Gastrointestinal Disorders
Question #55160
40 days ago
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How to know if my Ayurvedic treatment for IBS and gallstone is effective? - #55160

Client_1955d1
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I have IBS and taking ayurvedic treatment. My recent USG scan as below ABDOMINAL ULTRASOUND LIVER – is normal in size & echotexture – No evidence of focal or diffuse pathology. Intra & extra hepatic biliary radicles are not dilated. C.B.D IS NOT DILATED GALL BLADDER – is well distended WITH A SMALL 6 MM CALCULUS WITHIN Its wall thickness measures 2 mm PORTAL VEIN & SPLENIC VEIN are normal. PANCREAS – is normal in size & echotexture. SPLEEN – is normal in size & echotexture. KIDNEYS – are normal in size & echotexture – No evidence of CALCULI / HYDRONEPHROSIS. RIGHT KIDNEY – 10.1 x 4.6 cms – CORTICAL THICKNESS – 17 MM LEFT KIDNEY – 10.2 x 4.5 cms – CORTICAL THICKNESS – 19 MM BLADDER – is well distended & is normal. PROSTATE – is normal in size & echotexture. NO EVIDENCE OF ASCITES IMPRESSION - * SMALL SOLITARY GALL STONE - 6 MM Blood test: Vitaminb12 - 271 Vitamin D3 - 19.5ng Issues: Upper back pain when sitting without back rest. Slight burps. As of now taking below medicineas prescribedby doctor 1. Arogyavardini rasa tablet 1-0-1 before food 2. Cholenorm tablet 0-0-2 after food 3. Pittharechaka kashya 10ml-0-10ml 4. Bilagyl 1 teaspoon evening 5. Taken injection renerve 3 dose for vitamin deficiency 6. Vitamin D3 60000UI gel capsule weekly one Question: Is this treatment enough and in right track ?

How long have you been experiencing upper back pain?:

- More than 3 months

How would you describe the intensity of your upper back pain?:

- Moderate — bothersome but manageable

Have you noticed any specific triggers for your burping?:

- No clear triggers

How has your bowel movement changed since starting treatment?:

- Improved — more regular

Are you experiencing any other symptoms besides back pain and burping?:

- Changes in appetite

How has your energy level been since starting the vitamin D3 treatment?:

- No change

Have you followed any specific dietary changes along with your treatment?:

- Yes, some changes
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Yes enough add Tab pithorin 1tab 2times after food Avoid oily spicy food meat alcohol smoking spinach cabbage milk products


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Stay hydrated - 1) tab nephrosave 2 tab twice daily after meal with 15 ml gokhru kwath with equal amount of water - 2) tab pathrina vaidyanath 2 tab twice daily after meal - 3) tab gokshuradi Guggulu 1 tab before meal twice daily - 4) tab chanderprabha vati 2 tab at night ---- avoid fried and fast food ---- avoid brinjal, tomato, bhindi, palak ---- review after 1 month with reports


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●Yes this treatment is enough for your symptoms for better digestion take some home remedies and for any other queries contact here. ●Balancing Blend Shatavari - 1 part Kamdudha - 1% part Shankha Bhasma - 1/2 part Arrowroot - 2 parts These four together: Soothes intestinal irritation, reduces acidity Strengthens the colon, stabilizes Vata ●How to consume this mixture: Take 1/2 teaspoon twice a day with a little lukewarm water, immediately after meals. This time is chosen because the digestive system and digestive tract can then absorb the medicine properly. ●Vata-Pacifying Tea Flaxseed Tea: Boil 1 teaspoon of flaxseed in 1 cup of water, strain, and drink before bed. It: Soothes the intestines Reduces Vata dryness Soothes pain and cramps ●Isabgol Teaspoon Plain water - 1/2 cup This combination: Psyllium husk - 1 teaspoon 1 hour after dinner • Lubricates the intestinal lining • Helps shape stools • Reduces gas, distension, and irritation • Soothes colon sensitivity


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Determining the effectiveness of Ayurvedic management for IBS (Grahani) and Gallstones (Pittashmari) requires a balance of subjective symptomatic relief and objective clinical markers. Since these conditions involve two different systems—the digestive tract and the biliary system—the signs of progress will manifest differently for each. For IBS treatment you can use 1. Kutajghan vati 1BD after food with normal water ( if you have loose stool) 2. Bilvadi churn 1 tsf BD with buttermilk after food ( if you have hard stool) 3. Gangadhar churn 1 tsf BD with normal water after food For Gallstone you can use 1. Arogyavardani vati 1BD after food with normal water 2. Varunadi kwath 15 ml with same amount of water after food both time 3. Avipatikar churn 1 tsf with normal water both time after food Dietary & Lifestyle (Pathya) •​Takra (Buttermilk): Specifically for IBS, Takra processed with Deepyadi Churna or Musta is considered the best medicine (Grahani bheshajam). It is easy to digest and improves gut flora. •​Avoid “Abhishyandi” Foods: Avoid heavy, sticky foods like yogurt (at night), refined flour, and excessive cheese which can aggravate both IBS and gallstones. •​Meal Timing: Eat only when the previous meal is fully digested


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Your current Ayurvedic treatment appears to be moving in the right direction, especially because your bowel movements have improved, which is one of the most important signs of recovery in IBS (Grahani). Your ultrasound also shows only a small single gallstone (6 mm) without swelling, blockage, or liver involvement, which is a positive sign. In Ayurveda, improvement is judged not only by reports, but also by changes in Agni (digestion), bowel regularity, gas formation, appetite, energy, and pain levels. Signs Your Treatment Is Working You are likely improving if you notice: Better bowel regularity and less urgency Reduced bloating, gas, mucus, or abdominal discomfort Less burping and heaviness after meals Stable appetite without indigestion Improved sleep and mental calmness No severe gallstone attack or sharp right upper abdominal pain No increase in stone size on follow-up scan Your current symptoms like slight burping and upper back discomfort suggest that mild Vata-Pitta imbalance and digestive irritation are still present, but not severe. About the Gallstone A 6 mm gallstone is considered small. Since: CBD is not dilated Gallbladder wall is normal Liver and pancreas are normal there is currently no emergency concern. Ayurvedic medicines like Arogyavardhini Rasa and bile-supportive medicines are commonly used to improve liver function, digestion, and bile flow. However, gallstones should be monitored periodically because Ayurveda mainly helps by: reducing stone-forming tendency, improving digestion and bile metabolism, controlling symptoms. Vitamin Deficiency Your: Vitamin D3 = 19.5 (low) Vitamin B12 = 271 (borderline low) can contribute to: fatigue, upper back/muscle pain, weakness, poor gut healing. So continuing Vitamin D and B12 correction is important alongside Ayurveda. Diet & Lifestyle (Very Important) For IBS + gallstone together: Avoid: Fried, oily, spicy foods Bakery items and junk food Cheese, paneer, excess milk products Red meat and alcohol Long fasting or overeating Late-night meals Prefer: Warm freshly cooked food Thin moong khichdi Jeera-ajwain-fennel water Buttermilk with roasted jeera (if tolerated) Small frequent meals Early dinner About Upper Back Pain This may be due to: Vitamin D deficiency, posture strain, gastric bloating/referred pain, Vata aggravation. If pain becomes severe, radiates to chest/right shoulder, or occurs after fatty meals, then gallbladder evaluation should be repeated. Follow-up Timeline You can usually judge Ayurvedic progress in: IBS: within 6–12 weeks Gallstone management: 3–6 months with repeat USG A repeat ultrasound after 4–6 months is reasonable to check whether: stone size is stable, symptoms are controlled, no inflammation has developed. Overall, your reports and symptom improvement suggest the treatment is currently on a good and stable path, but continued diet discipline and regular follow-up are equally important for long-term success.


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Client_1955d1
Client
40 days ago

I’m taking Ayurvedic treatment from 3 months for IBS… Since I had backpain doctor suggested to go for blood test and scan. Later they included medicine related to gallstone

you are taking Ayurvedic treatment for IBS and your reports later showed gallstones, the doctor may have added medicines to support liver, gallbladder function, digestion, and reduce inflammation… Back pain can sometimes occur due to digestive weakness, gas accumulation, inflammation, or occasionally referred pain from gallbladder issues… Continue medicines regularly as advised by your doctor. Avoid oily, fried, spicy, bakery, and heavy foods. Eat light, warm, easily digestible meals at fixed timings. Prefer moong dal, cooked vegetables, rice, buttermilk, cumin, coriander, and fennel. Drink warm water through the day. Avoid long fasting, overeating, and late-night meals. Gentle walking and stress reduction help both IBS and gallbladder health.

Managing a combination of Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) and a solitary 6 mm gallstone requires a careful balance between stimulating the gallbladder and soothing the gut. Based on your report and current symptoms, here is an assessment of your progress and the effectiveness of your regimen. Effectiveness & Progress Assessment Your treatment appears to be on the right track, particularly concerning your IBS. • Positive Signs: The fact that your bowel movements have become more regular is a primary indicator that the Bilagyl (often used for gut motility and stool consistency) and Pittharechaka Kashaya are working to balance your Pitta and Vata in the digestive tract. • The Gallstone: A 6 mm stone is considered small and often manageable with Ayurvedic litholytic (stone-dissolving) treatments. Arogyavardhini Vati is a classic choice here as it improves liver function and bile flow. • Persistent Symptoms: The “slight burps” and upper back pain suggest that while the bowel habits have improved, there is still some residual Udavarta (upward movement of gas) or gallbladder-related referred pain. Understanding Your Symptoms 1. Upper Back Pain Upper back pain, especially on the right side or between the shoulder blades, is a classic symptom of gallbladder distress (referred pain). Since it occurs when sitting without support, it could also be aggravated by poor posture, but in your context, it is likely linked to the gallstone or associated inflammation. 2. Vitamin Deficiencies • Vitamin D3 (19.5 ng/mL): You are currently in the “deficient” range (usually <30 ng/mL). Low Vitamin D can contribute to muscle aches and back pain. • Vitamin B12 (271): This is on the lower end of normal. • Note: It takes roughly 8–12 weeks of consistent supplementation to see a significant change in energy levels or a reduction in pain associated with these deficiencies. The “Do’s”✅ • Small, Frequent Meals: Large meals put a heavy load on the gallbladder. Eat 4–5 small meals instead of 3 large ones. • Fiber Intake: Continue with soluble fiber (like Isabgol or cooked oats) to help with IBS without irritating the gallbladder. • Warm Water: Sip warm water throughout the day to stimulate bile flow and aid digestion. • Posture: Since sitting without a backrest triggers pain, ensure your workstation is ergonomic. Use a small cushion for lumbar support to reduce the strain on the mid-back. The “Don’ts”❌ • Avoid Heavy Fats: Stay away from fried foods, heavy creams, and excessive butter. These require significant bile to digest, which can cause the gallbladder to contract painfully against the stone. • Limit Gas-Forming Foods: Reduce cabbage, cauliflower, and raw lentils to minimize the burping. • Avoid Suppression: Never suppress natural urges (flatulence or bowel movements), as this is a primary cause of IBS (Grahani) in Ayurveda. Monitoring Progress To know if the treatment is truly effective: 1. Repeat USG: A follow-up ultrasound is usually recommended after 3 to 6 months of continuous treatment to see if the 6 mm stone has reduced in size or dissolved. 2. Pain Mapping: Keep track of the back pain. If the frequency of the pain reduces as your Vitamin D levels rise, the cause was likely nutritional. If it persists despite normal Vitamin D levels, it remains a gallbladder symptom. 3. Appetite: As your Agni (digestive fire) stabilizes, your appetite should become consistent rather than fluctuating.


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Hello, The results of your ultrasound and blood work provide a clear picture of your current health status. It is important to evaluate these findings both from a clinical perspective and through the lens of Ayurvedic principles. ​ ​Gallbladder: The ultrasound shows a 6 mm solitary calculus (gallstone). While 6 mm is considered small, its presence can sometimes contribute to digestive discomfort or biliary colic. ​Vitamins: Your Vitamin D3 (19.5 ng/mL) is in the “insufficient” range (typically < 30 ng/mL). Your Vitamin B12 (271 pg/mL) is at the lower end of the normal spectrum. These deficiencies often correlate with chronic digestive issues like IBS, as malabsorption can occur. ​ The upper back pain you mentioned can sometimes be “referred pain” from the gallbladder, though it is also commonly postural. Burping (eructation) suggests a backup of digestive gases or slowed gastric emptying. ​ ​Your current protocol is well-structured for your specific findings: ​Arogyavardhini Vati: A classic choice for liver and gallbladder health (Yakrut-Pliha) and improving metabolism (Agni). ​Cholenorm & Pittharechaka: These specifically target bile flow and cholesterol metabolism, which is essential for managing a gallstone. ​Bilagyl: This is often used for IBS (specifically Grahani) to regulate bowel movements and heal the intestinal lining. ​Supplements: The B12 injections and weekly D3 are standard medical interventions to correct your documented deficiencies. Your question ​Is it on the right track? Yes, the combination addresses both the structural finding (gallstone) and the functional issue (IBS/Digestion). ​Indicators of Effectiveness ​Since Ayurvedic treatment works by balancing Agni (digestive fire) and Doshas, you can track progress through these “positive signs”: ​Reduction in “Amavata” symptoms: A decrease in the frequency of burping and a feeling of “lightness” after meals. ​Pain Management: A gradual reduction in upper back discomfort and any right-sided abdominal heaviness. ​Bowel Consistency: In IBS, the goal is a formed, easy-to-pass stool without mucus or urgency. ​Follow-up Imaging: A repeat USG in 3–6 months is the only way to objectively confirm if the 6 mm stone has reduced in size or cleared. ​ Prescription : ​In Ayurveda, this is viewed as Pittashmari (gallstones) and Grahani (IBS). The goal is to thin the bile, improve liver function, and soothe the gut lining. 1. ​Liposem Tablet Take 2 tablets twice daily after food. This helps in regulating fat metabolism and prevents further stone formation. 2. ​Ashtachoornam Take 1 teaspoon twice daily mixed with a little ghee or warm water before meals. This is excellent for relieving the burping and improving the “Agni” to help with IBS symptoms. 3. ​Dadimadi Ghrita Take 1 teaspoon with warm water on an empty stomach in the morning. This medicated ghee is traditional for improving absorption and correcting the underlying weaknesses associated with Vitamin B12 and D3 deficiencies.


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Your reports are overall reassuring except for the small 6 mm gallstone and vitamin deficiencies. Since your bowel movement has improved and there is no major liver or bile duct abnormality, it suggests that the treatment is moving in the right direction. A small gallstone without obstruction is usually managed conservatively if symptoms are mild. Slight burping and upper back discomfort can still occur due to digestion and gallbladder-related irritation, but the important point is whether symptoms are gradually reducing and digestion is becoming more stable. Your current medicines are mainly focused on improving bile flow, digestion, and liver-gallbladder function, which is appropriate in your case. Vitamin B12 and Vitamin D deficiency can also contribute to fatigue, body pain, and nerve-related discomfort, so correction of those deficiencies is important. Continue dietary discipline. Avoid oily, fried, very spicy, and heavy foods. Eat smaller meals at regular timings and avoid long fasting gaps. Continue hydration and light physical activity. At home, warm water after meals and avoiding lying down immediately after eating can help reduce burping. Gentle walking after meals is beneficial. For now, your treatment appears reasonable and on the right track, especially since bowel symptoms are improving. Continue current prescribed medicines regularly Continue Vitamin D3 weekly as advised Complete B12 correction course and monitor levels later Triphala tablets 1–2 at bedtime can be considered if constipation persists occasionally Repeat ultrasound only if pain increases, nausea develops, or symptoms worsen. Regards, Dr Raghuveer (Ayurvedacharya)


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